No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

Not if he's planning to use the Orange armor. Let's say someone is playing a Guardian... but an Orange Heavy chest piece drops with Aim armoring and mod, but Critical enhancement.

-The armor is heavy, he can use it.
-The enhancement may be useful to him.
-He likes the look of the armor.

In this case, he would be "Needing for Appearance".

Personally, I ask if it's ok to Need for appearance, especially if the armor will be a significant upgrade for someone else. However, unless the armor is level 50, you will be replacing those mods in a few hours... so the stats really don't matter. In this particular case, Orange armor is nothing but a Need for Appearance.

Again... people should establish their loot rules at the beginning. If they don't, they have no one to blame but themselves if someone Needs "outside the box". And if someone attempts to break the loot rules, you kick them... it's that simple.

And if you forgot to establish loot rules, then chalk it up to lesson learned and move on... /ignoring the ninja in question and spreading it around your guild and friends not to accept him into parties.

I hope you mean this apply to the person who broke the established rule instead of ppl who needs 'outside the box'

Breaking an established rule is one thing. Rolling needs not according to your 'assumption/opinion' is another.

Someone who "needs outside the box" and someone who "breaks the loot rules" are the same person, IF you established rules beforehand.


But yes, I get what you're saying. If you do not establish loot rules beforehand, you shouldn't /ignore and blacklist someone for needing something you think they don't deserve.

Do you establish with a girl on the first date that you won't **** her? No. It's assumed you won't because we try to pretend we are decent people. So why should every group have to spell out what should be assumed by all? Unless it's a special situation, then the rules are indeed in effect. Saying it's not your fault that you needed an item you cannot use or is not for you because nobody told you that you shouldn't do that is a bs cop out.

Almost 80 pages of complaints by people who lost the roll.

I'm not concern about blacklist and ignore. I'm more concern about spreading it and labeling other as something they aren't just because they have differing opinion on loot.

My brother write down nicknames. I asked him why since he have this 'friend' panel. He told me that this is a list of idiots that steal gear (roll need when they should not). And he will never take them into party.

And he use my BH to do Flashpoints. Sometimes he take low lvl people, do their flashpoint and roll pass on items. Always with 1-2 people in party. He told me that he do that because Ilium is empty and warzone is all about boring and stupid hutball.

Just write down idiots on some paper or add them to ignore list. Spread that list in your guild. Soon they will have hard time to find any party or guild.

You play the game?You roll the dice,you don't watch ppl play period.
If there"s any Rule ,it should be in the game mechanics not left at Ppl appreciation
Courtesy?What?It's a game try your luck and that's it.If it's not your turn,eventually you'll get what you want,iit's a minigame nothing more.The more you play,the more you get.
If the rule is not in the game mechanics,it's nowhere,it's a game in the game ,play it or don't but quit QQ,this is ridiculous and embarrassing for other players.
Courtesy is something you use with a young "mademoiselle" and all and all,not this BS,seriously.
I don't need anything,really,I just play the damn game ...or I don't.

Wow, way to use an extremely bad analogy.


The difference is, there is established social etiquette and REAL consequences for breaking social contracts.

There are no solid, established rules for looting. You are making the mistake that your view of looting is and should be the default assumption of all people.

Also, even if something was assumed to be "wrong", being the internet, there aren't any real consequences for breaking rule... except for giving the ninja a bad rep and never grouping with them again.


If you don't establish rules, you can't blame the person for Needing something they can use. But, if you really want to have iron-fisted control... always make sure you're the group leader. Always roll last, and if someone Needs something you don't think they should, then kick them.


P.S. Btw, there is plenty of sex that happens on first dates without complaint.

I might just start clicking need on everything in order to spite you people. This is pathetic.