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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Inarai
01.25.2012 , 08:29 PM | #441
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_Wannabe View Post
As for rolling for mods, I'm against rolling for mods when another player needs the entire item. Does a marauder need a piece of heavy strength modded armor just as much as a juggernaut does? I'm not saying he can't use part of the item, but he can't use as much of the item as a juggernaut would. I'm also against a sage/sorcerer rolling against a trooper/bounty hunter for a piece of heavy aim modded just because they want one of the 4 pieces. The person who gets the most use out of an item, or all of the parts of the item, has the greatest need for it. Everyone else is just greedy for it.
Okay, but if the Marauder is using the Armouring, Mod, and Enhancement, he's using everything - and no, the Custom shell doesn't really count. Besides, that, what if the Juggernaut was going to swap out the Mod and Enhancement, and just wanted the Armouring? As he's using more of it, is it now the Marauder's?

In the end, the trick is that people have different standards. It's not a matter of greed (unless they don't apply the same standard to others), it's just different ways of looking at it. I wouldn't be more upset about losing a dual-bladed saber to a Sorc who needed the mods than I would to another Assassin, because so far as I'm concerned that's entirely legit - and I consider it a matter of good practice to settle that with groups before the run.
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CactusBrawler
01.25.2012 , 08:33 PM | #442
It is an odd thing, fairly unusual compared to most MMO's.

The marauder in the ops post can use every part of the item, even the cunning, after all its his main DPS pets main stat, so he can remove the armouring part and mod, slap in his own stat ones, and then slap those into his companions armour.

Strange system, will be interesting how the social rules develop over the course of the games life.

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glemmstengal
01.25.2012 , 08:35 PM | #443
Pug = every man for himself

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Keihryon
01.25.2012 , 08:43 PM | #444
It is amazing...common courtesy has gone the way of common sense, it seems.

That is so saddening that people actually defend this type of behaviour.

I will say, you people would make Gordon Gecko proud.
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DarthMoord
01.25.2012 , 09:10 PM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I stated an opinion; it's clearly marked as such. There's no logic in the piece that you quoted, so there can't be flawed logic involved.
Opinions do not appear from the aether like magic, they're form through a convoluted thought process. Give you one guess what that thought process is typically referred to as.
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FalcoLombardi
01.25.2012 , 09:17 PM | #446
In my opinion, if you can wear it. You can roll for it. I got a Sith Maruader Chest Piece on my Agent from Athiss. It looks really cool on her. Granted, I was with my friend that I've been leveling up through the game with the entire time. And we're both like level 41. But the point is, I don't have that much a problem if you can wear it. I won't do it myself if I'm with someone and their class is supposed to use it not mine
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Agemnon
01.25.2012 , 09:26 PM | #447
They need to make it so that everyone has the lewt and take rolling completely out of the equation. If something drops a piece of armor, then everyone should get it.

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Kaphik
01.25.2012 , 09:32 PM | #448
Quote: Originally Posted by CactusBrawler View Post
It is an odd thing, fairly unusual compared to most MMO's.

The marauder in the ops post can use every part of the item, even the cunning, after all its his main DPS pets main stat, so he can remove the armouring part and mod, slap in his own stat ones, and then slap those into his companions armour.

Strange system, will be interesting how the social rules develop over the course of the games life.
This is pretty much what i was going to say, funny that you're on the last page now too!

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Sai-to
01.25.2012 , 09:36 PM | #449
Quote: Originally Posted by FalcoLombardi View Post
In my opinion, if you can wear it. You can roll for it. I got a Sith Maruader Chest Piece on my Agent from Athiss. It looks really cool on her. Granted, I was with my friend that I've been leveling up through the game with the entire time. And we're both like level 41. But the point is, I don't have that much a problem if you can wear it. I won't do it myself if I'm with someone and their class is supposed to use it not mine

I'm going to actually have to agree with you on this one.

Outside of raids and hard modes, the mods that come with Customizable gear are usually crap, and they aren't tied to that piece of gear. So anyone who uses that type of armor (Light, Medium, Heavy) has the right to roll on it if they want. It even falls into "accepted" loot rules... even if people don't want to admit it.

In DCUO, this was called "Needing for Appearance".

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ferroz
01.26.2012 , 07:18 AM | #450
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMoord View Post
Opinions do not appear from the aether like magic, they're form through a convoluted thought process. Give you one guess what that thought process is typically referred to as.
...there's no logic listed in the quoted text; so quoting that particular text, which doesn't show it's logical foundation (or lack thereof) and then claiming faulty logic is more than a little absurd.

if you want to call faulty logic on something, quote the piece that actually contains the faulty logic, and say what's faulty about it.

Besides, lots of people form opinions without using any sort of formal system of reasoning. In those cases, there's a lack of logic, which is not the same thing as faulty logic