No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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wanderica

01.25.2012 , 12:57 PM \| #251
Quote: Originally Posted by Descento if I am able to press NEED, then i'm allowed to do it /thread Fine, press need. Just remember this isn't WoW with cross server LFG tools and auto grouping features, and people like you are the reason why. Do whatever you like, but in THIS game (at least currently), your actions can have repercussions. Remember that.

LeonidasSith

01.25.2012 , 12:59 PM \| #252
OP. I agree. Build a friends list and stick to it, unless absolutely necessary. You'll get a ninja every now and then, but as you add more and more people to your friends list, it will happen less. Let the ninjas ninja each other.

Galbatorrix

01.25.2012 , 12:59 PM \| #253
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz How so? Or are you just throwing around insults due to lack of valid arguments? Yes, if you think you deserve it over someone else who's put in the same time and effort. Fixed. It's selfish, but it's less selfish than the guy who's making a big deal about how he's been slighted and how he was entitled to that loot. what lack of decency are you referring to? Ok.... you have an item with cunning. Cunning is the primary stat for smugglers and agents. Now, you're going to honestly tell me that if an item drops with cunning on it, which again is the primary stat for smugglers and agents, the whole group should get to need on that item? Really? I just don't get why this even needs to be explained to you over and over again. Passing on loot that is an upgrade for someone offering their time to help the group through the flashpoint is common courtesy. Sorry you don't agree (as will be everyone you run flashpoints with), but there's no reason to continue this argument. Have fun getting booted from groups constantly.

apetooman

01.25.2012 , 01:01 PM \| #254
My solution is to wait to see how everyone else rolls and adjust my strategy accordingly. Loot ninjas are as much a part of MMOs as leveling, RNG, and g chat spam.

Ruuprect

01.25.2012 , 01:01 PM \| #255
Quote: Originally Posted by Descento if I am able to press NEED, then i'm allowed to do it /thread What r u 3 years old. Derp. There is no ethics left in the world of mmo's. When someone rolls on something simply because the need is there to be pushed, I kick them from the group and put them on ignore and let my server know not to play with this person. If I am not the leader I leave, as I am the healer that pretty much ruins thier run for the day as it is hard to find healers on my server. AND I let the server know who they r. This is usually appreciated by everyone as the instantly go on thier ignore list. Good luck finding groups with attitudes like this.

Magnijung

01.25.2012 , 01:03 PM \| #256
Quote: Originally Posted by Descento if I am able to press NEED, then i'm allowed to do it /thread This is exactly why design needs to change.
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Calsetes

01.25.2012 , 01:04 PM \| #257
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix Ok.... you have an item with cunning. Cunning is the primary stat for smugglers and agents. Now, you're going to honestly tell me that if an item drops with cunning on it, which again is the primary stat for smugglers and agents, the whole group should get to need on that item? Really? I just don't get why this even needs to be explained to you over and over again. Passing on loot that is an upgrade for someone offering their time to help the group through the flashpoint is common courtesy. Sorry you don't agree (as will be everyone you run flashpoints with), but there's no reason to continue this argument. Have fun getting booted from groups constantly. Let's take another example. Moddable Trooper armor drops. It's low level, so nobody cares about it and everyone hits Greed. The Guardian, who wants to wear armor and not space monk robes, wants it really bad. He asks the group if he can need for it, and everyone says sure. He hits need, everyone wins. Now, take that same example, and remove everyone but Trooper's ability to roll Need. Everyone hits Greed, even the Trooper. The Guardian wants it, and everyone's fine with him getting it. How do they now pass after selecting greed already? They can't. The Guardian misses out on his armor he really wanted, someone in the group has armor they're only going to sell because it's already bound, and the overall mood is lessened for everyone. I really think limiting Need based on classes is a bad idea, even though it would take care of ninja looters.
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Malpracticex

01.25.2012 , 01:08 PM \| #258
Quote: Originally Posted by Descento if I am able to press NEED, then i'm allowed to do it /thread spoken like a true 12 year old

Giondi

01.25.2012 , 01:08 PM \| #259
Quote: Originally Posted by CBGB ...if anyone in that class is with your group. I can't believe I'm posting about item rolls, or about this issue. People worry too much about loot, and I'm a big believer in just enjoying the game. But poor claims hurt group dynamics, and there's no need for this kind of thing. Today, a Sith Marauder rolled Need to get this Cademimu Sharpshooter's Jacket +34 Endurance +38 Cunning +18 Critical Rating when I pointed out it was made for an Agent, like me, he said he intended to strip out the mods and trade them. When I noted that the mods are Bound, he insisted that since he could wear it, he could roll. More surprising was that when he brought the issue to /General, a few voices agreed. Most did not, but the others need to know that sort of claim i's a party-breaker. This is clearly an Agent item - a huge upgrade in my case - and my next group will get a little less healing as a result. One of the pleasures of running Flashpoints is the chance to get gear suited to you. If it's better suited to someone else, leave it for them. I had kind of the reverse happen to me. I ran Foundry on my Sorc and I Greed rolled on a Marauder piece and won. The Marauder we had in the party pitched a fit because he lost and demanded I give it to him. The other two people (thank God) sided with their healer in that this douche should have hit Need if he (derp) needed it. I moved the mods into Khem's gear and put the actual piece (with comm mods) on Ashara. Just hit Need if it's something you need for your character, and if you roll Greed, don't cry if you lose.
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MrTijger

01.25.2012 , 01:11 PM \| #260
Quote: Originally Posted by Magnijung This is exactly why design needs to change. The design needs to change because the players aren't able to behave like grownups....really?

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