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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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zandadoum
01.25.2012 , 11:39 AM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
fixed

they're all equally selfish acts.
wrong

how is it a selfish act needing for a mod that increases my stats?

would i be selfish too if i needed for an item that increases my aim for +2 while to another guy it means getting +10 aim?

are you telling me that from now on i will have to inspect each player in the group before deciding if i need that item or not?

yeaaaah, riiiiiight.

not gonna happen.

it improves me? then i'll need.

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ferroz
01.25.2012 , 11:39 AM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by JustTed View Post
It's not a feeling. Some items are designed for certain classes and it's obvious upon looking at the item.
No, it's a feeling. If an item is not restricted to a single class, then it was obviously designed to be worn by anyone who can equip it.

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JustTed
01.25.2012 , 11:40 AM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by zandadoum View Post
how is it a selfish act needing for a mod that increases my stats?
Because you want the mod, but the class that the item was designed for wants the whole thing. He wins, and you're just a selfish male in your teens or twenties.

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JustTed
01.25.2012 , 11:41 AM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
No, it's a feeling. If an item is not restricted to a single class, then it was obviously designed to be worn by anyone who can equip it.
The above statement says it all. I guess your trooper is in Jedi robes and your Jedi sentinel is in smuggler gear. This all makes perfect sense and you should now use the word "logic" like that makes your point of view unassailable.

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WFSWTOR
01.25.2012 , 11:41 AM | #195
Quote: Originally Posted by Sufran View Post
I think the principle reason you get vocal individuals supporting such egocentric behaviour is that they collectively realise that they have to give the impression that their behaviour is accepted by a sufficiently sizeable group of people. Why? Because if they seem isolated or small (as I think they actually are) then the majority will, rightly, stamp on their faces without hesitation. Fortunately, I suspect we are the vast majority so don't pander or back-down if you're faced with those that want to Need for their absent companion over a player or to take something for the 'aesthetics' of an upgrade to you; black-list them and leave because I suspect there's far, far, far more people with your perspective that'll be willing to group. The same cannot be said for the backstabbers and carrions, they'll only get into groups because people are ignorant of their past actions.

Personally, I’d refuse to heal somebody that did such a thing and offer an ultimatum. I will not continue to co-operate with an individual or group of individuals that has no sense of collaborative spirit, it’s a principle I won’t deviate from. If everything is intended as a means to an end solely for your benefit rather than the collective then go play something other than an MMO.

Naturally, I have no objection to those that Need for companions after everyone in the group has given consent or if a companion has contributed to the effort but attempting to equate whimsical notions of re-sale or aesthetics with the quantifiable effects it will have on longevity or damage for the best-suited recipient is simply asinine to me. I blame these covetous cretins on those akin to Ayn Rand and Milton Freidman; they made being a duplicitous dunce somewhat acceptable again.
If a person needs on an item that clearly is not part of their class, I immediately dump the group because as a tank or healer I don't need a person like that, i can find someone else to group with.

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zandadoum
01.25.2012 , 11:42 AM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by JustTed View Post
Because you want the mod, but the class that the item was designed for wants the whole thing. He wins, and you're just a selfish male in your teens or twenties.
making personal assumptions coz u run out of arguments, eh?

i dont care about the "whole item" argument. it gives me more stats, i need on it. end of story.

oh and btw i am 37, married and selfemployed, just FYI

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ferroz
01.25.2012 , 11:42 AM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by zandadoum View Post
wrong
No, I'm absolutely right.

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how is it a selfish act needing for a mod that increases my stats?
Because you want it for yourself. That's selfishness.

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would i be selfish too if i needed for an item that increases my aim for +2 while to another guy it means getting +10 aim?
Yes. you want it for your self. You're concerned about yourself, not others.

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are you telling me that from now on i will have to inspect each player in the group before deciding if i need that item or not?
No.


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it improves me? then i'll need.
sure, just don't think that you're being any less selfish than someone who hits need to sell it to a vendor.

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Xabana
01.25.2012 , 11:44 AM | #198
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Exactly, well said.
No, ferroz is simply arguing semantics while completely and purposefully glossing, no skipping, the entire underlying argument in this thread. It's a great tool of the sociopathic mind.

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zandadoum
01.25.2012 , 11:45 AM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
sure, just don't think that you're being any less selfish than someone who hits need to sell it to a vendor.
you're so full of bull, lol.

explain to me please then why is there a greed button and following your logic, when should we use it?

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Kirska
01.25.2012 , 11:45 AM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Xabana View Post
No, ferroz is simply arguing semantics while completely and purposefully glossing, no skipping, the entire underlying argument in this thread. It's a great tool of the sociopathic mind.
I'm fairly certain he's trolling us (he did admit himself that his opinions aren't based on any logical conclusion) and I'm not going to feed him anymore.
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