No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

Good luck finding groups with that mentality.

Nowadays I get to play maybe 4 hours a week at best. If I run a flashpoint, I probably won't run another for weeks.

Speak for yourself. I won't see that item again for a very long time, if ever.

I think if you're after only one mod on a three-mod item, then it's probably best to ask if it's ok to need on it for the Enhancement mod. See what the group says. Takes five seconds minimum, ten seconds max. If it's during a fight, then blame the guy who looted during the fight.

Edit: Hell, if someone said they needed that, and I could make it on my main, I'd let them know I can make them one afterwards if it saves the group an argument.

It's nice to appeal to common courtesy, but you're appealing to an ideal that remains blind to the practical reality. If you're with a group of friends there's almost never loot drama. If you're in a PUG, courtesy flies out the window more often than not in the face of getting loot.

Individuals can be courteous, but when there's little incentive to do so at the expense of their goals, and when there's no meaningful consequence for discourteous behavior, people will often choose not to be courteous.

It's good for those of us who hold ourselves to a higher standard of courtesy in how we treat others, particularly strangers. We have to remember, however, we aren't absolute authorities: we may be discouraged when someone else doesn't hold themselves to our same standards, but we have no right to hold others to our own standards. We're each sovereign only as far as our own flesh. Past that, we've nothing but a perspective.

Here, let me give you an example of why I'm glad the game expects us to be decent to each other and not stuck on stupid. An Aim piece came up but it wasn't as good as what I already had on, so I picked Greed, an agent asked if he could pick it up for his companion then. We all agreed and he picked Need. These things bind on pick up, if he wasn't allowed to pick need, then he might not have gotten it.

The same thing goes with gutting the orange for the appearance gear. I don't care if you let everyone know first and no one needs it. What is in bad taste is harming a group member's chance at stats they need so you can look cute.

Something similar happened on my server when a shadow rolled on a str/end earpiece with a warrior in the group. They kicked him and he brought it to local. I explained while yes the endurance helped him, the piece helped someone else two fold, so he shouldn't have taken it.

Not really a dick move man, this is not the 60 and 70's about free love this is the 2012 the end of the world we got holy wars and destruction all around us. We do not respect and care for any other except for ourselves.

Uh... "Need" and "Want" are different words.

I stated an opinion; it's clearly marked as such. There's no logic in the piece that you quoted, so there can't be flawed logic involved.



Irrelevant.

No, that's not what I said.

I said that the person complaining about not getting loot, regardless of their class, is more selfish than whoever took the loot from them. Specifically, that I find the behavior of "complaining about not getting loot" to be more selfish than anything else in the game. Period.

thats very true.

This is where player responsibilities take over from coded game mechanics. This is a mmo so its a social game just as much as a rpg. When grouped with someone displaying that attitude I can have several options on how to respond.

I can just roll need on everything in the group if thats how they want to do it.

I can apologize to other people and quit the instance

I can just run through it for the xp and pick up gear in another round.

I can /tell the group leader and see if he will kick a single guy with attitude

I can join a good guild where people with morals and values play and avoid pugs whenever possible.



There are always options. I say make use of them and avoid getting upset about other peoples playstyels. You need to group with people who share the same attitude as you do. Its not a right or wrong situation. And BioWare did actually put in 2 systems for this. One is guilds and the other is a friends list.

It's part of the problem, because there is no accountability with people you don't know.

The other part of the problem is lack of communication. If you're going to roll Need on almost everything, then let me know, so I can do the same.

Anyways, like I said in the rest of my post that you omitted, I only play with RL friends, because I can trust them.