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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Galbatorrix
01.27.2012 , 03:39 PM | #1151
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
The irony of this is astounding. My parents thought me right from wrong and fairness. Yet, here you are telling me it is fair to dictate to others what they should or should not do when it comes time to roll on loot.

The Irony is trying to use backward logic to justify you getting to not only roll on items for your PC, but items intended for everyone else's as well. You talk "fair" for your side, yet you are being way more greedy than my side. We are just asking you to pass on one type of item. The one that was created for our class. Mean while, you're telling us that you have the right to loot your classes stuff, your companions stuff, appearance stuff..... who's more greedy here? The group that wants to need and win there own personal classes loot only, or the group that wants to need and win potentially everything that drops that run?

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Loendar
01.27.2012 , 03:40 PM | #1152
Quote: Originally Posted by VanorDM View Post
And if it is a even bigger upgrade for my companion, and therefor by extension and upgrade to me when I'm not in a FP. Then doesn't that mean I need it more then them?

I mean if your line is, it should go to who ever gets the biggest increase out of it... Then that's fine, but then you have to accept that an upgrade in equipment for my companion is an upgrade for me.
If your companion is participating in the Flashpoint with me and is crucial to accomplishing our goals - by all means.

If there are four players in the group all doing their part and you are selfishly rolling on gear that will only aid you when not grouped with other players, while taking advantage of those players to do it, then you should go elsewhere.

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ferroz
01.27.2012 , 03:41 PM | #1153
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
They need it more than you
No, they want it and feel entitled to it. Nothing more. There is no need involved. That's just a word you're using to hide your own shame at the childish sense of entitlement you're displaying.

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VanorDM
01.27.2012 , 03:41 PM | #1154
Quote: Originally Posted by Sousukesama View Post
It is about being human and treating others with respect.
I keep hearing this same thing, yet it's such a meaningless statement and does nothing to help your argument.

How does me rolling need on an item that will improve my ability to play the game, disrespectful of other people?

What if two people were playing a gunslinger, which one of them is disrespected by the other if they both roll on an item that's an upgrade for them?

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Sousukesama
01.27.2012 , 03:41 PM | #1155
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
This is another of those veiled threats. if you don't so as we say, you'll be outcast. I have yet to see anyone outcast on an MMO for any reason.
I'm not sure what part of my post was a threat. It was a statement that how you treat people will reflect on how you are treated in the future. Simple as that.

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Setanian
01.27.2012 , 03:41 PM | #1156
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
The Irony is trying to use backward logic to justify you getting to not only roll on items for your PC, but items intended for everyone else's as well. You talk "fair" for your side, yet you are being way more greedy than my side. We are just asking you to pass on one type of item. The one that was created for our class. Mean while, you're telling us that you have the right to loot your classes stuff, your companions stuff, appearance stuff..... who's more greedy here? The group that wants to need and win there own personal classes loot only, or the group that wants to need and win potentially everything that drops that run?
Please, please. Go read this entire thread. No-one anywhere that I saw every said they would need on loot that said <class specific>. That is not to be mistaken with loot that you *feel* should be class specific.
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Galbatorrix
01.27.2012 , 03:42 PM | #1157
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Conversely, you should try playing your own game and allowing others to play theirs how they see fit. If you weren't so worried about what other people did and didn't do, you might actually enjoy the game more.

Oh, I love this game. And since people's actions in this game directly effect how well I perform with my character, of course I'm going to worry about it. How do I tank harder instances if I keep losing all of my tank gear to companions or troopers that though they'd look awesome in a Jedi Knight robe? Again, this isn't a hard concept to grasp.

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Loendar
01.27.2012 , 03:42 PM | #1158
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
No, they want it and feel entitled to it. Nothing more. There is no need involved. That's just a word you're using to hide your own shame at the childish sense of entitlement you're displaying.
Need is clearly the wrong word in these contexts anyway. As someone mentioned earlier it really comes down to 'want' - because nobody needs the gear.

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Code_Airwolf
01.27.2012 , 03:42 PM | #1159
*quietly walks in....*

I just have one comment to interject into this conversation that's, might I say, been a very entertaining thread to read from page 1 thru 116 I believe it is now.....

There are some people playing, like......I don't know..........maybe myself........*looks for sudden hand movements in the room*......or MAYBE NOT.........I'm just sayin'.......I have this friend.........that, this is only his 2nd MMORPG......his first being CoH that he played since, I think 2004......that quite honestly, when the prompt came up, had no idea what that meant, nor what to do. And being a non-greedy, always willing to give rather than get, and help someone else rather than help themselves (I mean, who ELSE would play a HERO for 7 years+)......clicked "need" because they would never ever pick anything that said "greed" or "greedy". And in doing so, apparently, after finding out, by picking "need", actually picked the greedy selfish option.

So there are probably some people out there, that may not even know or understand what they just did.......and could use the edumacation.....so consider that before some of you are kicking/ignoring/hating, that maybe the person just needs a friendly lesson or help understanding what's happening or what just happened.

I perused the online game manual and so far can't find anything about it, but might have missed it.....

So anyways, that's all I wanted to say.......you know..........for my friend..........that didn't know better.............but now he knows.............because knowing is half the battle......

OK I'm done.....

*slowly begins to leave, then hauls arse out the door*

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Setanian
01.27.2012 , 03:43 PM | #1160
Quote: Originally Posted by Loendar View Post
If your companion is participating in the Flashpoint with me and is crucial to accomplishing our goals - by all means.

If there are four players in the group all doing their part and you are selfishly rolling on gear that will only aid you when not grouped with other players, while taking advantage of those players to do it, then you should go elsewhere.
Where did you get this titbit of information? If there are four players in a group, and they down the boss, they each have an entitlent to roll (how they wish) on the loot. You in some way trying to usurp that entitlement is you taking advantage of gullible players.
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