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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Hitokirin
02.03.2012 , 03:51 PM | #321
Because they know it will be overrun by sorc teams

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Kolbenito
02.03.2012 , 03:54 PM | #322
Quote: Originally Posted by nubzz View Post
I made it to 2400 cliking with a rl friend playing a druid that didn't know how to shift and run so I don't know if that is really saying much lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW8H30gh_Nw
Guy stands there and lets you S key and keyboard turn around him while you beat no him with your Karazhan weapon, partner dead and hunter not peeling you at all.

You sure it wasn't more like 1400?

Do not post stuff like this please, I'm a nice guy and don't like to have to call BS.

btw, this is what warrior PVP during TBC looks like for 2400 MMR.
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=158517
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=159361
Kolbe - Sith Juggernaut - Jung Ma RP-PVP
Kolben - Vanguard - Jung Ma RP-PVP

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EscVelocity
02.03.2012 , 04:10 PM | #323
I think it's obvious why famous PvP'rs on YouTube typically show how to play a class by making Arena videos.

You can't exactly test your true skills in a game of Huttball. You can only win with a couple different abilities in certain situations.

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MrXen
02.03.2012 , 04:10 PM | #324
Quote: Originally Posted by Sedic View Post
Sorry I am confused, why would players who do not like the arena system claim they do not want it when it is a 100% voluntary action? There is a smaller minority of people who love arena who love the fact that your fighting on a ladder system, that there is zero chance of anyone interrupting your fight and it all comes down to you and your partners skill. Yes of course some balancing would take place on classes all arena would do is put a spot like on the too powerful classes so Bioware may allow balance. World of Warcraft had massive diversity in there classes that caused huge balance issues constantly, Swtor has very very similar mechanics entwined into each class that would save tones of nerf/buff patchs.

Things Swtor could do better to Arena type pvp

-> Same rewards for Arena pvp as all other type battlegrounds? (same gain rate, so people who only like arena dont have to play huttball against/with bots and afks.)

->I always felt the competitive edge of different gear was what made Arena fun the guy with the legendary hit hard that how it was supposed to work. Swtor could simply auto buff stats to the same level (just like low lvls in bgs) so that regardless of your gear it actually did come down to skill.

TLDR : Arenas were fun in wow, a lot of people used them. Why are there masses of people so against in a 100% voluntary action in a game?
Because people would rather whine and ruin the game and "be different than WoW at any cost" than accept a good idea for new content.

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nikpower
02.03.2012 , 04:14 PM | #325
Quote: Originally Posted by Sedic View Post
->I always felt the competitive edge of different gear was what made Arena fun the guy with the legendary hit hard that how it was supposed to work. Swtor could simply auto buff stats to the same level (just like low lvls in bgs) so that regardless of your gear it actually did come down to skill.
i think you are refering to GW2
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Metalmac
02.03.2012 , 04:23 PM | #326
Quote: Originally Posted by mufutiz View Post
there are three facts about arena PvP:

- you can't hide behind your gear in arena. In fact you can't hide at all. You either kill your enemy or get mauled yourself. ad victorem spolias.
- you will always (in theory) be matched against opponents of equal skill.

most importantly:

If you are a good player, everybody will know it. Be a bad player, everybody will know it.


It's pretty clear why the average mmo player does not like arena.
THAT IS A LIE!

The true way to see who has talent is to put them all in the same gear in a match.

If people have the same exact gear they the only winner is talent and nothing else.

Arena people live by the motto of out gear the other guy. So you get those with no life at all outside of Arena that rule Arena all the time. They are not that much better they are just better geared.

Want proof? Make all of them wear exactly the same gear then look at who wins.

My main problem with what Arena does is destroy the PVE side of the game. Why WoW is dead is the direct result of my character being nerfed for sake of Arena and destroyed PVE.

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Nafian
02.03.2012 , 04:30 PM | #327
Quote: Originally Posted by Metalmac View Post
THAT IS A LIE!

The true way to see who has talent is to put them all in the same gear in a match.

If people have the same exact gear they the only winner is talent and nothing else.

Arena people live by the motto of out gear the other guy. So you get those with no life at all outside of Arena that rule Arena all the time. They are not that much better they are just better geared.

Want proof? Make all of them wear exactly the same gear then look at who wins.

My main problem with what Arena does is destroy the PVE side of the game. Why WoW is dead is the direct result of my character being nerfed for sake of Arena and destroyed PVE.

Most people will tell you that, while WoW was close, they still got it wrong. WoW implementation of Arena and gameplay / gear overall is not the only way it can be implemented. In direct terms of Arena, there's many more ways.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=217245

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Kolbenito
02.03.2012 , 04:34 PM | #328
Quote: Originally Posted by Metalmac View Post
THAT IS A LIE!

The true way to see who has talent is to put them all in the same gear in a match.

If people have the same exact gear they the only winner is talent and nothing else.

Arena people live by the motto of out gear the other guy. So you get those with no life at all outside of Arena that rule Arena all the time. They are not that much better they are just better geared.

Want proof? Make all of them wear exactly the same gear then look at who wins.

My main problem with what Arena does is destroy the PVE side of the game. Why WoW is dead is the direct result of my character being nerfed for sake of Arena and destroyed PVE.
They do wear the same gear. Your post basically gives away that you have zero experience with the subject. The overpowered gear all comes from PVE raiding and is by no means a guarantee that you will do well at all.
Kolbe - Sith Juggernaut - Jung Ma RP-PVP
Kolben - Vanguard - Jung Ma RP-PVP

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Iamurfriend
02.03.2012 , 04:36 PM | #329
Quote: Originally Posted by Metalmac View Post
THAT IS A LIE!

The true way to see who has talent is to put them all in the same gear in a match.

If people have the same exact gear they the only winner is talent and nothing else.

Arena people live by the motto of out gear the other guy. So you get those with no life at all outside of Arena that rule Arena all the time. They are not that much better they are just better geared.

Want proof? Make all of them wear exactly the same gear then look at who wins.

My main problem with what Arena does is destroy the PVE side of the game. Why WoW is dead is the direct result of my character being nerfed for sake of Arena and destroyed PVE.
This is just not true. The same players who lead the brackets in bg9 were leading the ladders in the tournament realm, where gear is equal.

You bads just refuse to accept the fact that you're bad. You have self image problems.

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Metalmac
02.03.2012 , 04:38 PM | #330
Quote: Originally Posted by Kolbenito View Post
They do wear the same gear. Your post basically gives away that you have zero experience with the subject. The overpowered gear all comes from PVE raiding and is by no means a guarantee that you will do well at all.
LOL PVE gear was rendered useless in PVP Arena by adding a stat like Resolve. You lie.