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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Ferrydust
01.30.2012 , 06:38 PM | #231
Too much would have to change to make arena any fun in this game. If they had arenas or rated warzones's right now, it would be horrible.

They didn't even try to cheat proof the game.

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AngryBuddhist
01.30.2012 , 06:42 PM | #232
The only way to make arenas viable at the moment would be to give everyone the teleport hack. Or the multi-hack

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FtDParadox
01.30.2012 , 07:00 PM | #233
Rated PvP is coming, deal with it.

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Kaliem
01.30.2012 , 11:22 PM | #234
For starters, I previously stated I do not care about the gear being in line or less from Arena.
now as for everyone complaining about the gear difference being the issue and requirement to do well, and at the same time class composition, if I scour my computer for some screenshot's (I haven't touched wow in years) of me above 2k rating in starter sets, as an unconventional comp, would that put that argument to rest.
I'm sorry it might not be nice to hear, but I had a large amount of alts that I arena'ed with of multiple classes, (I'll leave it at more than 10).
Some I focused on more, going for the Gladiator ratings and the best tier of weapons
Others I spent time only around Tier1 wep - shoulders, purely because of the lack of drive.
The simple fact is that yes certain comps were better, or more effective, but the gates were never a loss the second they opened when it came down to the 3vs3 bracket (2vs2 granted you could instant lose more often) the starter set was all that was required gear wise to do well, You could get the first rated weapons in blues, a struggle but possible.

as for all the other arguments, I'm not asking for it to give me more gear, I'm not asking for it to give titles, or a ranked system even, nice but not my main want, what I like the most is the ability to spend time with friends in a way we have fun, without being forced to play with 4 other people who make our life harder on purpose it seems. and don't even get me started on world pvp.

Oh and one final thing, rated bg's were the reason I left wow, getting to the top of that, "Fotm comps" were even worse, mark my words on that, all of you approving ranked Wz's are going to eat your words when it happens.

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GreenReafer
01.30.2012 , 11:49 PM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by RealAeiouy View Post
Arenas literally took no thought at all. I would rather do what others talk about and have competive huttball. Create leagues and schedules, have multiple arenas teams can have for their home games etc etc. That is a way better plan for compelling game play then multi player dueling.

People act like arena was some genius game development. It is barely an idea. "hey let's have 3v3 death match in a room". We should be asking for more than that.

Create engaging competive and creative gameplay not just a way for people to peacock about their dueling skills.
Sometimes simplicity is best.

You sound like you have a lot of time to play if you want leagues and schedules.

Many of us don't have that type of time and if they add rated WZs I hope its the same gear as regular WZs because there is no way I will find a team of 8 who I can get on at the same time given I log close to 6 hours a week.

Also the objective based PvP would be better if death was permanent. Kind of lame to be able to run like a lemming over and over and not pay a price but to wait for a few seconds
"Skilled, coordinated PvP was found in Rated Battlegrounds, not Arena." - AntoniusDelitan
not sure if serious

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GreenReafer
01.30.2012 , 11:51 PM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by meatmower View Post
All I see here is whining for another avenue to gain pvp gear where "skill" and class balance dominates.



As he stated Tatooine is the perfect place to setup an arena. If you enjoy playing in Arenas that's reward enough isn't it?

Perhaps people should be asking for a non-pvp spectating area overlooking the pit in the ffa zone.
Too much effort when you don't live in game. Sorry I have a job and family. I'd take scrimmishes where I can Q anywhere tho
"Skilled, coordinated PvP was found in Rated Battlegrounds, not Arena." - AntoniusDelitan
not sure if serious

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GreenReafer
01.30.2012 , 11:53 PM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by Delavager View Post
A lot of these posts are:

I don't want Arenas because...[Enter Assumption Here]

The biggest issue is that they are all assumptions, and aren't necessarily true nor how BW would implement Arena's if they so choose to do so.

-There doesn't have to be gear grind or any special gear associated with Arena.
-There can be separate ability sets for Arena so that it doesn't effect PvE or Warzones.

It is very possible for BW to do a good job and create an Arena that does not effect the rest of the game in the slightest. An arena would make a lot of people happy, and if they can do it in a way that doesn't "break" the rest of the game, then they probably should.

I don't think anybody (or at least very few) want an Arena for the sake of L33T gear, or balancing.
need to paste this over and over as it covers the only arguments people keep using. They are still sore they couldn't even get a 1800 (starter) pvp weapon lol
"Skilled, coordinated PvP was found in Rated Battlegrounds, not Arena." - AntoniusDelitan
not sure if serious

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Moosefeathers
01.30.2012 , 11:55 PM | #238
The game isn't balanced for it and i dont want to see a fresh wave of nerf posts every day about whatever fotm class is op, its bad enough already with a vocal minority of people not even playing endgame demanding changes to classes they haven't interacted with at the same level with the same gear level.

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GreenReafer
01.30.2012 , 11:56 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by Bubalous View Post
gratz , you just proved a lot of people's negative views on arena pvp by pulling out the 'what was your rating so shut up scrub casual 'card.
All arena brought to wow was a bunch of elitists that thought their rating when playing fotm comps made them pvp gods
So wrong man... So many nice guys who only palyed Arena and were high rated. The few elitist circle jerkers were a minority with their small group who thaught they were cool- the problem is they are the vocal ones
"Skilled, coordinated PvP was found in Rated Battlegrounds, not Arena." - AntoniusDelitan
not sure if serious

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ContrailNZ
01.30.2012 , 11:57 PM | #240
My biggest complaint is newbie leaders that don't mark enemy healers to focus fire.

Unfortunately that is over 95% of leaders.

They need to make it so everyone can mark enemy