Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > PvP
Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

CapuchinSeven's Avatar


CapuchinSeven
01.30.2012 , 06:04 AM | #161
Blizzard actually said if they'd known what the arena was going to do to their game then they'd have never put it in.
I know chop-knees.

Nordain's Avatar


Nordain
01.30.2012 , 06:06 AM | #162
PvP in this game is too shallow for any arena system.
Nordain - Sage @Prophecy of the Five
Nord
- Merc @Mind Trick
Let me tell you a story about how great I am.

RealAeiouy's Avatar


RealAeiouy
01.30.2012 , 07:40 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by akunamatata View Post
arenas is close envyronment , everyone have all cds up , is all about how you use them , in warzone is not like that! you are just trying to hide behind something that doesnt make you seem bad and make you feel bad for it.

in WZ you can say 100000 excuses for why you fail without even think " was my fault" , in arena you cant do that , thats why no1 like arenas.

in warzone you can be a tank , you can not even have spells on bars , you carry the ball from the place to the base and you are good , in arena you need something more than that to be good , is different things , and cant be compared.

i think arena is good as the players who play it!

now in this thread i see 90% of the people saying arena is a bad thing dont put that ingame , if it comes i ll see that 90% crying here for nerfs , thats the problem of arenas =D

Chester, most people in arenas are being carried as well. It is rare you have three equally skilled players on the same team.
I put the AssAssIn assassin.

Sjwhite's Avatar


Sjwhite
01.30.2012 , 07:41 AM | #164
Because they don't want a ranking system in which they cant get the best gear just by grinding instead of skill.

LaVolpex's Avatar


LaVolpex
01.30.2012 , 07:44 AM | #165
Lets do an experiment OP...


answer me this, would you still participate, and consider them as fun as you do, if arenas gave ZERO REWARDS

zero valor, zero comendations...just bragging rights....

would you still want them implemented?

im guessing no..

to be fair, arenas changed not only the entire pvp game, but they also changed the entire development focus to cater to the arena junkies, THIS is why a lot of us dont want this travesty of pvpinabox implemented or even uttered by the developers here, heck even blizzard admits its one of the biggest development mistakes they ever did and the main reason they had to dumb down the talents and game so much afterwards

LaVolpex's Avatar


LaVolpex
01.30.2012 , 07:47 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Asamighost View Post
If you want us to take PVP seriously we will need ARENAS.
I dont care about WoW having Arenas or any other game, we as PVPers need them.
One thing is true, they need to fix the current PVP adn the ability delay first.

the thing is , i dont care about you guys that take pvp seriously , after all you dont care about the pve crowd that might get boned to accomodate for your lolarena balance so why should i care about your pvp?


regardless of what you may think, you ARE the minority on this

davidpop's Avatar


davidpop
01.30.2012 , 07:49 AM | #167
personally i would like big scale wars insted, but guess those days are dead and gone, its all little boxed maps in mmos now

LaVolpex's Avatar


LaVolpex
01.30.2012 , 07:50 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
Because they come from WoW, and in WoW there was a very widespread - but very mistaken - perception that every single change to class mechanics and numbers was due solely to PvP.

"Stop nerfing my PvE because of Arena!" was a very, very common cry from people. They usually ignored the fact that most changes were due to PvE concerns as well.

The Warrior Shield Slam damage nerf was a good example. The PvE community whined and whined that their PvE was being nerfed because of PvP, even though Blizzard very clearly stated that they wanted to spread out Prot Warrior damage across their other abilities rather than having 80% of Prot Warrior damage in PvE come from one button.

It's funny, because in general PvP balance and fixes were practically ignored by Blizzard. Legendary quality PvE items in PvP, Arena maps that STILL had serious terrain bugs (Feared into the wall again, yay...) and other issues that just never got addressed.

So now we have these people in SWTOR, and they're just petrified of the idea of any sort of organized, competitive PvP because they still think that their PvE DPS/Healing/etc will get nerfed into the ground if anything happens in PvP.

i can name 3 abilities from just my shaman that were FLAT OUT REMOVED FROM BOTH PVP AND PVE because of arenas......

tremor totem removed, poison cleansing removed because of whiny rogues about PVP , purge nerfed to uselessness because of....what? pvp...

so sorry but facts are facts, the pve crowd DID GET BONED because of arena balance, and even most players and devs admit it now that it was a mistake

wow still has arenas, i wonder why you dont play there anymore, perhaps because the game is so dumbed down (another effect of your arenas) that it bores you now? what do you thnk will happen here if they put arenas? the same friggin thing ...

Ste-wan's Avatar


Ste-wan
01.30.2012 , 07:53 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by LaVolpex View Post
Lets do an experiment OP...


answer me this, would you still participate, and consider them as fun as you do, if arenas gave ZERO REWARDS

zero valor, zero comendations...just bragging rights....

would you still want them implemented?

im guessing no..

to be fair, arenas changed not only the entire pvp game, but they also changed the entire development focus to cater to the arena junkies, THIS is why a lot of us dont want this travesty of pvpinabox implemented or even uttered by the developers here, heck even blizzard admits its one of the biggest development mistakes they ever did and the main reason they had to dumb down the talents and game so much afterwards
How about if operations or WZ gave ZERO REWARDS would you play them then?

I'm guessing no...

Your analogue is flawed.

Ste-wan's Avatar


Ste-wan
01.30.2012 , 07:56 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by LaVolpex View Post
the thing is , i dont care about you guys that take pvp seriously , after all you dont care about the pve crowd that might get boned to accomodate for your lolarena balance so why should i care about your pvp?


regardless of what you may think, you ARE the minority on this
Why create a game with PvE and PvP at all? why not two different games? You could even have a third game for those who want to do crafting...

Could it be that people like their game to be more than one dimensional?