Bioware caved in to the forum whines, prepare for the start of a doomed pvp game.

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Bioware caved in to the forum whines, prepare for the start of a doomed pvp game.

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Mokdai

01.24.2012 , 11:18 PM \| #241	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaos_Distortion This will start a nerfing trend that will get all dps classes nerfed eventually and then healing will be to high, so they will have to nerf healing and buff dps again. Then the nerfing/buffing cycle will just repeat itself, until the players get tired and the game dies. Good job at killing another game, that is what you forum whiners wanted after all. Pretty ironic you are talking about the forum whiners whilst being one yourself. You haven't even played with the changes and you are already crying lol. Also it's nice to see you can see into the future and already know how this games gonna progress. Get over yourself and stop being such a baby gamer.
Mokdi 50 Commando Guild Leader of <Coalesce Force>

rzrknight

01.24.2012 , 11:20 PM \| #242	Quote
While i understand your point , and agree that most of the nerf cries come from biased voices. I also agree that BW should listen to the forums , be them the smaller pop or not , really we are the ones who lose time to give our opinion , be it bad or good , call other player to do the same , or they get what others make them get.
The Lord said: "QQ enough and thou shall receive it." The followers said: "I shall QQ my lord, i shall QQ." And since then , not a single day passed without the QQs being heard.

gambLefN

01.24.2012 , 11:26 PM \| #243	Quote
on my jugg with 18k hp full champ gear. an OP knocks me down, ( with an expertise buff and pot), hits me for 9k 5k then 2k, dead me might of stood a better chance had my unleash not been on CD

GreenReafer

01.24.2012 , 11:27 PM \| #244	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaos_Distortion The title says it all, Bioware like every other developer caved in to the very vocal forum minority which also usually tends to be some of the very worse MMO players in MMOs. This is the beginning of the end. Scoundrels/Operatives did not need a nerf Bioware, as a healer I say this. You need to test your game and use your own metrics before implementing any class changes in game. Do not go by made up scenarios and imaginary numbers that forum posters use to try to make a point. That's the mistake of past mmo devs that has caused their subscriptions to dwindle in the past and I say that as an MMO veteran since 1997 UO, that has played nearly every MMO since then. You should, if possible release surveys in game to also see how players feel about x and x changes before implementing them. You can also use surveys to see if players think some classes are over the top, currently. You will see that the majority of people that actually play the game at 50, don't feel like the random forum whiners/posers that aren't even 50 yet. /Cheer Never making QQ posts, I just enter them defending even when I have no clue what I'm argueing about, lol cause I know majority rules informed or not
"Skilled, coordinated PvP was found in Rated Battlegrounds, not Arena." - AntoniusDelitan not sure if serious

Carebear

01.24.2012 , 11:29 PM \| #245	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by jordanph How do you know they didn't test it themselves? How can you think 7-8k crits is fair against most classes 3-4k crits max. Please behave and have evidence of everything you say. They've so far listened to noone suggestions about illum, world pvp, champ bags etc etc and just because they make one class balanced you start crying on here. You're not going to get crit for 7-8k post 1.1 and if you're in full PvP gear. If you are, please provide proof.

Azygous

01.24.2012 , 11:31 PM \| #246	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by killadrix the game is doomed because of people like you who are upset because you rerolled an fotm class and are now butthurt it got brought in line with other classes. So now you want to give the appearance that you not being able to kill people in 3 seconds while they can't fight back somehow equals the game being doomed. qft..

Warriorraider

01.24.2012 , 11:31 PM \| #247	Quote
PvP in general needs fixed. One the imperial side, I'm sorry but must be said, RUSHED to 50 for pvp. Honestly if you want end game THAT BAD, go back to WoW. Reason why everything is all screwed up is the Elitist gamers for pvp/end game content ruin all games. They complain about not having enough content and not worrying about the balance of the game. AoC was ruined cause of that. Imperials need to be balanced with the republic. EVERY class. Not just operative/smuggler. Sorcerer and Jugg's need nerfing too. Also on republic, certain classes need augmented. Once this is done, PvP will be getting to a point of being balanced. Also, the whole 50 bracket did NO good cause most of the 50s on Imperial were already geared out in battlemaster gear. Yes the people that rushed to 50 are already geared out in battlemaster. TOTALLY not fair for people who are 50 and want to pvp and are not geared good enough. In conclusion, PvP in general is screwed up atm. It needs to be balanced. Not on just one or 2 classes, but on ALL classes til everyone is on equal footing in pvp.

FalmeseReb

01.24.2012 , 11:32 PM \| #248	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Grandpappy When one player can 2 shot me before I even get up (and I'm in mostly Champion gear) then a nerf is necessary. Ops are the most OP class in the game right now. youre a liar. nobody was 2 shotting you. You are one of these forum whiners that needs to shut the hell up. I've gotten a 5K medal 3 times since buff stacking was removed with my Scoundrel. Is that OP? 3 times in at least 50 warzones? Thats with using wz adrenals and my crit/surge relic.

Sendai_S

01.24.2012 , 11:43 PM \| #249	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaos_Distortion The title says it all, Bioware like every other developer caved in to the very vocal forum minority which also usually tends to be some of the very worse MMO players in MMOs. This is the beginning of the end. Scoundrels/Operatives did not need a nerf Bioware, as a healer I say this. You need to test your game and use your own metrics before implementing any class changes in game. Do not go by made up scenarios and imaginary numbers that forum posters use to try to make a point. That's the mistake of past mmo devs that has caused their subscriptions to dwindle in the past and I say that as an MMO veteran since 1997 UO, that has played nearly every MMO since then. You should, if possible release surveys in game to also see how players feel about x and x changes before implementing them. You can also use surveys to see if players think some classes are over the top, currently. You will see that the majority of people that actually play the game at 50, don't feel like the random forum whiners/posers that aren't even 50 yet. Do you actually think they don't research the information first themselves before taking action? All this makes you is a troll who is trying to keep a class overpowered so that you can "has your iWin" button. If you want the damage back - make them change the vanishing skill so that you can't double dip your opening from stealth attack. All other games I know of with a vanish skill intend it for one thing and one thing only... getting away... not for applying a second obscenely huge amount of damage in the same fight. There's a reason MOBS reset to full health when you vanish fighting them. Maybe you'd prefer player's health reset to full as well when you vanish on them?
--- Griefing doesn't make you cool. It doesn't make you better player. All it does is tell the rest of the world that you are not someone worth knowing.

JediDuckling

01.24.2012 , 11:46 PM \| #250	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaos_Distortion The title says it all, Bioware like every other developer caved in to the very vocal forum minority which also usually tends to be some of the very worse MMO players in MMOs. This is the beginning of the end. Scoundrels/Operatives did not need a nerf Bioware, as a healer I say this. You need to test your game and use your own metrics before implementing any class changes in game. Do not go by made up scenarios and imaginary numbers that forum posters use to try to make a point. That's the mistake of past mmo devs that has caused their subscriptions to dwindle in the past and I say that as an MMO veteran since 1997 UO, that has played nearly every MMO since then. You should, if possible release surveys in game to also see how players feel about x and x changes before implementing them. You can also use surveys to see if players think some classes are over the top, currently. You will see that the majority of people that actually play the game at 50, don't feel like the random forum whiners/posers that aren't even 50 yet. the only bad players are the ones thinking that overpowerd class's dont need a nerf. im sorry but Operatives need the armor pen nerf and the knockdown nerf. bioware is doing the right thing in nerfing this overpowerd class. its clearly overpowerd and people know it is

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