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[LORE] Lightsaber Construction, Color Meaning, and Crystals

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[LORE] Lightsaber Construction, Color Meaning, and Crystals

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Merovinjin
05.11.2013 , 02:53 PM | #21
i do remember their being an order to the crystals before the prequel trilogy but it just got dropped lol (all kinds of jedis used both colours in the geonosis battle).
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LadyKulvax
05.11.2013 , 02:55 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Merovinjin View Post
i do remember their being an order to the crystals before the prequel trilogy but it just got dropped lol (all kinds of jedis used both colours in the geonosis battle).
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Noblis
05.11.2013 , 03:59 PM | #23
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a lightsaber's blade color is just arbitrary.

Question : if your lightsaber blade is not showing up on the screen with the technology you are using at the time,
do you change the color of the blade?

I don't know what color blade Mace Windu had, but Samuel L. Jackson asked to have a purple blade. Just because.
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DracoSalieri
07.11.2013 , 02:50 PM | #24
A ritual performed by Jedi younglings before they move on to be a Padawan, is to venture into the crystal caves where they have to "find" their crystal. This crystal is what they then use to create their lightsaber. The finding of the crystal is believed to be guided by the force. This then means that the crystals colour will depend on the jedi. It in essence chooses the Jedi. A Jedi's first saber is a reflection of the user, but as the user changes, it becomes more and more difficult to determine the character of the Jedi by looking at their sabers. So of course anyone can use another saber, but the original crystal is a reflection of who the Jedi was when he found it..

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Darth_Omega
07.11.2013 , 09:45 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
Guardians = Blue, Consulars = Green, Shadows = Yellow, ******es = Purple.
Definately agree with purple. My Sorcerer uses a purple lightsaber, and that makes me very, very happy
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AlexDougherty
07.12.2013 , 04:34 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthRavnos View Post
Greetings -

So, I have seen a lot of posts floating around about color meanings, crystals, etc. I thought I would share this guide I put together a few years ago for a table top RPG I was running (Star Wars of course). Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on any piece of lore below. And also feel free to add to this guide.

This is a guide to Lightsaber Construction...

Before placing the crystal in the lightsaber, the Jedi or Sith must imbue them with the Force. To do this, the Force-user must meditate on the crystals for several days. A double-bladed lightsaber takes almost twice as long. There are even chances of failure that would sometimes destroy the crystal being used. In the end, the builder was always attuned to the weapon through the Force. Being better with that blade then anyone who may attempt to use it.

A lightsaber, short lightsaber (shoto), or any other form of lightsaber requires 2 crystals. An exception to this is the double bladed lightsaber, which requires 4 crystals.

A lightsaber requires the following components (x2 for Double-Bladed):
  • A handgrip
  • An activation stud plate
  • A safety switch
  • An emitter matrix
  • A lense assembly
  • Unique power cell (requires little to no recharging)
  • Power conduit
  • Recharge Socket (for recharging if required)
  • Focus Crystal
  • Beam Crystal

Beam Colors and Meanings

Silver (uncommon)
This lightsaber is what is called a dual-phase saber. Meaning the length of the blade can be changed with a special switch built into the hilt. The blade can be changed from the typical 1.2 meters to 2 meters with the flick of this switch.

Clear (rare)
A clear beam improves the stealth of a character. This was generally used by Jedi who focused on stealth and reconnaissance missions. The only downside to this beam, is it made using the saber difficult during combat.

Gold (rare)
This lightsaber is generally used in the ceremony of granting a Jedi the rank of Jedi Master.

Rainbow (Shifts through the color spectrum) (rare)
This lightsaber is unique in that it changes hue based upon the mood of the wielder.

White (common)
A color only used in lightsaber deflection training. This weapon provides no damage if someone is struck with it.

Black
A virtually impossible beam to create, the black lightsaber is convented by all dark side users. It is only a legend that such a crystal exists that would allow a dark side user to create such a beam. It's powers, unknown.
First I'm Ignoring most of the post since it draws information from conflicting sources, ie they were justifying the mechanics behind saber construction in different games. There is little true lore behind lightsabers, mostly due to George Lucas not providing any, and debunking anything anyone else came up with.

Firstly, the part were you say the lightsaber requires two crystals, a beam crystal and a focusing crystal, for most sources, including the books, these crystals are the same thing, meaning only one crystal is needed.

For the Silver beam/crystal lore, this is wrong, colour has no effect on blade length, and those lightsabers that do change length do so because they have multiple crystals (typically three for some reason)

For the Clear Blade, this would be invisible, this would then be the ideal blade type for most Sith, and the fact it isn't probably means it's impossible.

The White and Black Crystals are actually in the game, but white does as mush damage as any other.

The Gold Crystal is a mistake, Jedi council members have gold (the metal) on their lightsabers, ordinary masters (non-council members) are just declared masters without any particular ceremony.

And the Rainbow Crystal is probably not actually possible, it would require the colours to cycle through the actual crystal itself, which I'm sure is physically impossible (chemical bonds would have to be broken and reformed thousands of times per second).
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Phorenzyk
07.24.2013 , 03:26 AM | #27
First I'm Ignoring most of the post since it draws information from conflicting sources, ie they were justifying the mechanics behind saber construction in different games. There is little true lore behind lightsabers, mostly due to George Lucas not providing any, and debunking anything anyone else came up with.

Firstly, the part were you say the lightsaber requires two crystals, a beam crystal and a focusing crystal, for most sources, including the books, these crystals are the same thing, meaning only one crystal is needed.

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IIRC, it's a beam crystal and a focusing lens.

EDIT: And I'll just fail at quoting.

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tunewalker
07.24.2013 , 03:36 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by AlexDougherty View Post

First I'm Ignoring most of the post since it draws information from conflicting sources, ie they were justifying the mechanics behind saber construction in different games. There is little true lore behind lightsabers, mostly due to George Lucas not providing any, and debunking anything anyone else came up with.

Firstly, the part were you say the lightsaber requires two crystals, a beam crystal and a focusing crystal, for most sources, including the books, these crystals are the same thing, meaning only one crystal is needed.

For the Silver beam/crystal lore, this is wrong, colour has no effect on blade length, and those lightsabers that do change length do so because they have multiple crystals (typically three for some reason)

For the Clear Blade, this would be invisible, this would then be the ideal blade type for most Sith, and the fact it isn't probably means it's impossible.

The White and Black Crystals are actually in the game, but white does as mush damage as any other.

The Gold Crystal is a mistake, Jedi council members have gold (the metal) on their lightsabers, ordinary masters (non-council members) are just declared masters without any particular ceremony.

And the Rainbow Crystal is probably not actually possible, it would require the colours to cycle through the actual crystal itself, which I'm sure is physically impossible (chemical bonds would have to be broken and reformed thousands of times per second).
The rainbow gem does actually exist it was used by Tenel Ka Djo the grand daughter of Ta'a Chume and eventually the Queen Mother of the hapes consortium here let me link you the gem.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rainbow_gem

As you can see the nature of these "gems" is what allowed them to be shift in color and they did actually exsist, even have a noted jedi using one.

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AlexDougherty
07.25.2013 , 02:44 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Phorenzyk View Post
IIRC, it's a beam crystal and a focusing lens.

EDIT: And I'll just fail at quoting.
Yes, I get that, but the OP had a Beam crystal, a focusing crystal and a lens assemble, Just reducing it down to one crystal.

Ps. sorry about my post mucking up your quote, have fixed it.
Peace can be found, above all passions. Through passion, I may gain strength.
Through strength, I may gain power. Through power, I may gain victory.
But for every enemy fallen, a new foe rises.
For every chain broken, new chains bind me. Only the Force can set me free.

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Foxtrotmikelima
12.17.2013 , 08:15 AM | #30
The way I see it.

We dont have much (except the very erratic EU) to go on for this.

If I remember correctly, The Bane Trilogy did a good job of explaining why the Sith used Red Lightsaber crystals. And I generally accepted that since the writer decided to pay great detail to the Sith side of things without heavily contradicting other works.

As for the vast amounts of 'colored' crystals out there. Im on the fence about it. On one side, I can understand wanting to exhibit some sort of individuality. On the other, the Jedi were all about shrugging off materialistic attitudes and devoting oneself to the Force. So they were very much a copy and paste sort of group. Individuality wasnt highly regarded amongst the Jedi as it was the Sith.

But there will always be exceptions to the rule and as players/observers/fans we will always find ourselves choosing those individuals that acts outside of what the group does as those to look up to, be fans of or want to emulate.

So you will see a great many that may stay true to the Blue/Green lightsabers of the movies simply because they feel the need to stay true to what it is to be a Jedi. While others may distance themselves from that by choosing a different colored crystal.

As for the Sith brandishing Blue/Green Lightsabers. I cant say I blame them considering Bioware in my humble opinion went a little overboard with the lightside/darkside options. You will find many random encounters where you will be given a choice to make that will result in a lightside/darkside option. These options arent always preceeded by a necessarily obvious light/dark moment. And only when youre given the options of response do you become aware of its implications and youre forced to choose between how you think your character would react (which could net you points towards a side you dont want to be forced into) and what will give you the best option for your overall lightside/darkside goal.
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