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The Planets Feel Too Static


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Taurusaud
01.20.2012 , 03:51 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
The only thing actually lifeless are your repetitive inaccurate and negative rants about everything in the game, just so you can rant at Bioware.

You are fooling nobody.

And again, personal attacks are all you have! Here are the simple facts:


-The mobs just stand/sit there lifelessly waiting for you to kill them... in WoW they move and even talk to eachother and act out different scenarios...


-The few critters there are just sit there like they're painted into the background... in WoW they wander around and even attack one another..


-Why does every planet's ecosystem have to look EXACTLY like earth?! Where are the liquid nitrogen forests and electrical gas clouds? Where is the alien plantlife? Instead we get oak trees everywhere... designing alien planets should be so creative, and oak trees is what they came up with!? WoWs space zones are alot more creative and inspired...


-There's barely any music and ambient sounds... seriously for a game that prides itself so much on sound/voices did they just forget!? Were they drunk!?


-Add to that the linearity of the gameworld... no day/night cycle... no swimming environments... no weather... NPCs you can't even click on let alone interact with... it is way below par with where MMOs should be in 2011... How could they ever think this would compete with WoW?

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tmpearson
01.20.2012 , 03:53 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
I don't know how Bioware could think this stagnant gameworld competes with something like WoW's. These world designers were seriously out to lunch...


-The mobs just stand/sit there lifelessly waiting for you to kill them... in WoW they move and even talk to eachother and act out different scenarios...


-The few critters there are just sit there like they're painted into the background... in WoW they wander around and even attack one another..


-Why does every planet's ecosystem have to look EXACTLY like earth?! Where are the liquid nitrogen forests and electrical gas clouds? Where is the alien plantlife? Instead we get oak trees everywhere... designing alien planets should be so creative, and oak trees is what they came up with!? WoWs space zones are alot more creative and inspired...


-There's barely any music and ambient sounds... seriously for a game that prides itself so much on sound/voices did they just forget!? Were they drunk!?


-Add to that the linearity of the gameworld... no day/night cycle... no swimming environments... no weather... NPCs you can't even click on let alone interact with... it is way below par with where MMOs should be in 2011... How could they ever think this would compete with WoW?
aye matey

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timewatch
01.20.2012 , 03:53 PM | #63
I still remember camping mobs in the desert of Ro in eq1. Then the sky would darken and it begins to rain. For some reason, it felt like a relief because I'm standing in a hot desert sun all day and the rain feels refreshing. The good old days...

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Andryah
01.20.2012 , 03:54 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
And again, personal attacks are all you have!
Here are the simple facts:


-The mobs just stand/sit there lifelessly waiting for you to kill them... in WoW they move and even talk to eachother and act out different scenarios...


-The few critters there are just sit there like they're painted into the background... in WoW they wander around and even attack one another..


-Why does every planet's ecosystem have to look EXACTLY like earth?! Where are the liquid nitrogen forests and electrical gas clouds? Where is the alien plantlife? Instead we get oak trees everywhere... designing alien planets should be so creative, and oak trees is what they came up with!? WoWs space zones are alot more creative and inspired...


-There's barely any music and ambient sounds... seriously for a game that prides itself so much on sound/voices did they just forget!? Were they drunk!?


-Add to that the linearity of the gameworld... no day/night cycle... no swimming environments... no weather... NPCs you can't even click on let alone interact with... it is way below par with where MMOs should be in 2011... How could they ever think this would compete with WoW?
Tedious at best. Definitely redundant. Facts? not by any objective standard.

Telling you that I think your assessment of the worlds is inaccurate and that you are staging just so you can rant at bioware is not a personal attack. I believe it to be fact.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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tmpearson
01.20.2012 , 03:54 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Zorvan View Post
For the same reason all player characters are humans with paint jobs. Copy/paste is much cheaper and less work. Just ask DA2.

Lazy and cheap: the EAware motto.
bang on

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Akkalevil
01.20.2012 , 03:56 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Legatum View Post
Sadly i must agree as well, the planets look fantastic,but they feel like a single player RPG map
That sums it up.

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Zorvan
01.20.2012 , 03:56 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Gee, in a galaxy populated by high technology civilizations in the trillions, there is no way the lore would lead to eco-manipulations by the citizens through the use of their technology such that livable planets are within their desired parameters.
Yes, you're right.

Everyone terraformed planets into Earth clones, even though none of them had ever been to Earth.

Read the books describing alien flora and fauna, look at the art in Star Wars comics, etc.

Now look at the Earth clones in the game.

Lazy and cheap: the EAware motto.

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Taurusaud
01.20.2012 , 03:59 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Tedious at best. Definitely redundant. Facts? not by any objective standard.

Telling you that I think your assessment of the worlds is inaccurate and that you are staging just so you can rant at bioware is not a personal attack. I believe it to be fact.
You're a real riot kid. You've got nothing. You're unwavering fanaticism in the face of mediocrity is every lazy and incompetent developer's wet dream.

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Ellisande
01.20.2012 , 04:00 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Legatum View Post
Sadly i must agree as well, the planets look fantastic,but they feel like a single player RPG map
But I have played RPGs that felt absolutely huge.

The element I think which makes SWTOR feel so small is how unbelieveable everything is.

And this believeability is not something one can define only perceive. It is impossible to precisely state what makes a game world believeable or unbelieveable, the only thing one can do is say that it is or is not.
Quote: Originally Posted by cjohnk View Post
You can't add completely arbitrary assumptions on to someone's statement. When a statement is made, take it for what it is not for what it could be if you tack on 7 more words of your own choosing.

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Andryah
01.20.2012 , 04:05 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
You're a real riot kid. You've got nothing. You're unwavering fanaticism in the face of mediocrity is every lazy and incompetent developer's wet dream.
lmao.

Is that all you have left? Calling me a fanatic fan, because I disagree with your assessment?

I actually have a game I am playing, and enjoying.

comic sauce.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.