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Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly


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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 02:32 AM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by Bregah View Post
The gear grind is painful yet doable when you know your goal and what it takes to achieve it. That is simply not possible in this game, and so I feel that honestly it is simply not worth doing.

Warzones will continue to be a fun diversion from repeating all the planet quests while leveling alts, but RNG gear drops just make a bad thing (gear grind) even worse.

Again, I know that no one cares that I, personally, am boycotting it, but I also know that many others think like me.
I personally don't even think it should be painful. Gearing up should not take tremendous amounts of time; great players will win fights even if lower-level players have similar gear. Not everyone agrees, but that's hardly the point.

The point is to make this a gosh darned reasonable process instead of a ridiculous RNG festival. It should be a process that you can see happening, not a long grind interspersed with dashed hopes.

Or quick gearing, depending on whether or not you petted enough kittens for the wheel in the sky to spin you some gear that ain't a dupe.

It's a bad system. It's a fast way to discourage PvPers that play to win.

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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 03:07 AM | #262
Quick selfbump before I'm off to bed again.

Keep this thread going, hopefully we'll get a little love from the developers and turn PvP from 'you stand around and sometimes loot comes out of bags' to 'you try hard and you get neat gear for your efforts'.

Maybe it's a bit of a pipe dream, but I can hope!

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Cropkiller
01.21.2012 , 03:12 AM | #263
I would even be satisfied if the Champion bags dropped CHAMPION commendations, not the lower Centurion comms. That way even if I was unlucky for a few bags I could still get a decent piece.

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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 03:14 AM | #264
Quote: Originally Posted by Cropkiller View Post
I would even be satisfied if the Champion bags dropped CHAMPION commendations, not the lower Centurion comms. That way even if I was unlucky for a few bags I could still get a decent piece.
The impact on the psychology of PvPers seems to be the more relevant point to me. Giving people Commendations just for doing dailies seems less neat than rewarding with gear for doing class-friendly, objective-heavy quests.

Giving people goals is a hugely positive motivating factor.

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Firstborn
01.21.2012 , 10:22 AM | #265
Just wanted to bump and to tell you BIOWARE, that my sub is reactivated UNTIL You have fixed AWAY the randomness wich i thought i would leave when leaving blizzards randomness,


This game is broken for me, been waiting since 2009 for it. ANd i get to GRIND my *** off from bags wich MAY contain the reward im "POSSIBLE" looking for, NO no no no no no no no


Goodbye.
You are outmatched in every single way - Darth Tyranth

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Spaznik
01.21.2012 , 10:30 AM | #266
Well, today I got my first Battlemaster commendation!

It took me 10 bags to get just one!

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...

Too bad I need 3 of them for a weapon.

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obi-joachim
01.21.2012 , 10:32 AM | #267
I totally agree with you, the bag system needs a revamp.

-I had open 28 bags the other day in total before i got a non duplicate piece. A chestpiece then 2 bags after that again i got another chest piece.

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Qodis
01.21.2012 , 10:57 AM | #268
/agree
Current system is not providing any enjoyment whatsoever, in fact it feels like a big cheat.
Qodis: Squadron 11-11-11 Assassin

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Eradicatelol
01.21.2012 , 11:46 AM | #269
Bump
- No support for the terrible system now in place
Eradicate - Shii-Cho
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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 12:15 PM | #270
Quote: Originally Posted by Firstborn View Post
Just wanted to bump and to tell you BIOWARE, that my sub is reactivated UNTIL You have fixed AWAY the randomness wich i thought i would leave when leaving blizzards randomness,


This game is broken for me, been waiting since 2009 for it. ANd i get to GRIND my *** off from bags wich MAY contain the reward im "POSSIBLE" looking for, NO no no no no no no no


Goodbye.
Well, I don't think threatening to leave (or actually leaving!) is the way to go about changing things with big companies like BioWare; even -all their PvPers- leaving would be a drop in the bucket, yanno?

Still, I think the old system needs to be either replaced or, lower time-and-money requirement here, have a new quest line put in like the one on the first page, just to make it so folks have a consistent goal. Sometimes they'll get bonuses! Most people won't.

I think this is a great plan, easy to execute, and more importantly, -cheap-. I think BioWare could effect this very positive change without much trouble at all! And I hope they do.