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What Exploit?


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Yuuj
01.19.2012 , 04:03 PM | #1
I'm trying to get more information on this alleged exploit yesterday and why there needs to be a rollback but so far the only responses I've gotten from people crusading for rollbacks is "I should know and it isn't there job to tell me" and links to 'evidence' with no actual evidence.

From what I was able to gather, INITIALLY the concern was that players were receiving an ungodly amount of valor from turrets that instantly respawn. This led some players to demand rollbacks. Since then, it was been proven that turrets did not in fact grant valor so that can't be it.

A lot of people have been complaining about faction imbalance also but faction imbalance isn't an exploit so I thought "Oh, maybe people were getting more valor from kills somehow" but that isn't the case either. People who were spawn camping were actually receiving less valor everytime they killed the same person over and over again.

So I'm confused. I can't jump onboard the ROLLBACK GRAVY TRAIN without some factual evidence, or at least a clear understanding of what this 'exploit' we are fighting is.

With so many people on board it right now I'm sure you guys will have tons of information for me, screen shots, videos, the sorts with numbers showing these ungodly gains.

Please, no word of mouth. I saw a post from an obvious troll claiming to have gotten max rank on his brand new level 50 yesterday and I was disappointed to see the intelligent PvP community allowing themselves to be so easily manipulated and taken advantage of by someone who was obviously trolling them.

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Orici
01.19.2012 , 04:06 PM | #2
/bump

I had a feeling it was one of those "the sky is falling" things. If im right, shame on the PvP community for being lemmings. If im wrong, im onboard the rollback train.
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RealAeiouy
01.19.2012 , 04:07 PM | #3
Republic players think if they die it is an exploit
I put the AssAssIn assassin.

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Kalaesk
01.19.2012 , 04:09 PM | #4
It's horse **** TBH. My Rank 54 Powertech only went up to 55.5 which is roughly 50k And that was with almost all afternoon farming Ilum. The only people that got alot of levels were the sub 50 valor people because those levels don't take anywhere near as much as the 55+ ones.
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Tacopx
01.19.2012 , 04:11 PM | #5
The real problem is how long it took for BW to dispell the rumor.

Their community feedback in general is lacking, imo.

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TetraCleric
01.19.2012 , 04:11 PM | #6
There is no exploit. People are concerned that other people are "farming" valor by zerging a less populated faction in Ilum.

What they fail to realize however, is that Valor rewards are as designed. And previous to the patch, they weren't that much less. Before the patch you got 10 valor per kill (without the buffs). Now you get 20. The difference is that now you have a UI element telling you that you get Valor, and you don't have trading for points so that people get their bags (less incentive to actually PvP in Ilum). Had people tried doing World PvP before, they would have always seen that there were great Valor gains in Ilum over Warzones. But, forum people would rather be illogical, cry exploit, and complain, then look at things objectively.

You also have people that think that 100 expertise makes/breaks the game, and that a time based achievement (reaching any rank of Valor) is something to be upset over.

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BlazingShadow
01.19.2012 , 04:11 PM | #7
The only exploit in SWTOR is sage/sorc.

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Yuuj
01.19.2012 , 04:11 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Orici View Post
/bump

I had a feeling it was one of those "the sky is falling" things. If im right, shame on the PvP community for being lemmings. If im wrong, im onboard the rollback train.
It would be sad if that were the case and they were just hatedroning and allowing themselves to be manipulated by a group of other PvPers spreading rumors but I have faith that...

1) The people in support of a rollback actually know what the exploit they are demanding a rollback for is.

And that they

2) Demanded evidence before jumping on board and attacking Bioware to avoid looking like hatedrones being manipulated by people who aren't pleased with the game.

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iceperson
01.19.2012 , 04:13 PM | #9
there was no exploit. rebels are upset that more people play empire and others are upset that there's a way to get better valor than brain dead chain queuing for warzones

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Kalaesk
01.19.2012 , 04:13 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Yuuj View Post
It would be sad if that were the case and they were just hatedroning and allowing themselves to be manipulated by a group of other PvPers spreading rumors but I have faith that...

1) The people in support of a rollback actually know what the exploit they are demanding a rollback for is.

And that they

2) Demanded evidence before jumping on board and attacking Bioware to avoid looking like hatedrones being manipulated by people who aren't pleased with the game.
Trust me, no exploiting actually occured and the people calling this another "NGE" are proof that the Hyperbole is strong with this forum.
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