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Use of the word Alien?


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Metaphasic
01.19.2012 , 06:15 AM | #1
Was the word Alien ever actually used in the movies or novels? I can't recall at this early hour of the day. I was just wondering though, because it seems that in such a world where the races are diverse and all are in plenty supply, who could really term another race as alien, unless they strictly meant 'not indigenous'. The use of the word just seems very specist to me, at least, as it's used in the game. Nothing I'd really stress over, but it did get me to thinking.

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MustrumRidcully
01.19.2012 , 06:48 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Metaphasic View Post
Was the word Alien ever actually used in the movies or novels? I can't recall at this early hour of the day. I was just wondering though, because it seems that in such a world where the races are diverse and all are in plenty supply, who could really term another race as alien, unless they strictly meant 'not indigenous'. The use of the word just seems very specist to me, at least, as it's used in the game. Nothing I'd really stress over, but it did get me to thinking.
I thin alien is used mostly either as "not indigenous" or as "not of my species". I seem to remember some non-human NPC calling me or the EMpire/Republic "alien".

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Luckmann
01.19.2012 , 09:01 AM | #3
Alien almost univocally refer to non-Human. In the context of the Empire as presented in SWTOR, I would say that it refers to non-Human/non-Sith (species).

Don't let the linguistic origins and it's factual meaning within the English language confuse you. Contextually, it's used very differently in Star Wars.
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Gratulor
01.19.2012 , 09:30 AM | #4
Most of the time, alien is used by Human characters for any other species. Members of other species in turn often refer to Human characters as "Human". You could rationalise it and come up with theories... but as Humans ourselves, it is one of these things that are direct and easily understood by the audience. And instead of investing in recording dialogue for every single species out there, the use of a general term makes more sense on Bioware's behalf.
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fettpett
01.19.2012 , 09:39 AM | #5
I don't really understand this Sith Empires problem with "aliens" (meaning non-human, non-pureblood races). The Galactic Empire, i get as Palatine used them as scapegoats for the fall of the Republic, espeically the Jedi as most of the order is non-human.

but this Empire...*shakes head* just doesn't make sense.

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Talkarr
01.19.2012 , 11:00 AM | #6
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I don't really understand this Sith Empires problem with "aliens" (meaning non-human, non-pureblood races). The Galactic Empire, i get as Palatine used them as scapegoats for the fall of the Republic, espeically the Jedi as most of the order is non-human.

but this Empire...*shakes head* just doesn't make sense.
Because they see other species than humans and sith as lesser creatures. Just think of america and the slaves
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Matdeception
01.19.2012 , 11:55 AM | #7
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Because they see other species than humans and sith as lesser creatures. Just think of america and the slaves
Because America is the only country to ever make use of slave labor.

... lawl.

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BradJayMan
01.19.2012 , 12:16 PM | #8
I do not like the whole humans=doushebags either. Just looking over the 6 movies humans are either equal or less to the non-human.

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Bwbah
01.19.2012 , 01:38 PM | #9
The Empire is legally rascist; there's a widespread belief that Sith blood (carried exclusively, pretty much, by pureblood Sith and mixed-blood humans) is the source of their force abilities, a belief supported by the fact that everybody who has the whole redskin thing going on is force sensitive at least.

It's also complete BS, since the founders of the Sith Empire were human Dark Jedi conquistadors, with the conquered Sith as their slaves.

The Republic race relations are a lot more like the modern US, where human racial supremacy was the law of the land for thousands of years when the Pius Dea movement controlled the Republic. And while Pius Dea and its Crusades haven't been government policy for millenia, humans are still the upper crust of an astonishing amount of the galaxy, their language is probably the most widely spoken, and their probable homeworld is the capital of the Republic.

A whole lot of folks (human and non) regard humans as the norm, an idea that tends to get support since there are races, such as the Chiss and Miraluka, which actually are offshoots of humanity. And then there's the fact that humans are, if not a majority, certainly a plurality of the known galaxy's inhabitants.

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Gestahlt
01.19.2012 , 01:43 PM | #10
Keep in mind that the Sith purebloods and humans are the non-aliens. Alien refers to someone that is from a different origin/outside of your background, so it is feasible that everyone else is an alien to them.