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Unnattainable Endgame


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nothingavailable
01.19.2012 , 12:31 AM | #1
First off, if youre a troll or not level 50 exit this thread IMMEDIATELY.

First off class issues with Powertech

1. 2 Taunts, 1 of which has a 45 second timer. Now it hasnt been in issue but in hard mode there are waves of mobs in many many areas that come at maybe 20 second intervals. So that aoe taunt is pointless. Making highest dps or anyone aoe'ing main tank and negating any sort of purpose a main tank has other than some added dps. The taunts in this game are poorly thought out and not taken into mind in hard mode.

2. Im easily the best geared person on my server. Every piece of gear is +def and +shield with between 116-136 armor rating on everything and normal modes are a breeze with no deaths. Get into hard mode and some bosses will literally flash my entire hp off doing no casting effect just some invisible aoe and Im dead. Or they throw a bomb and it does 8-10k hp? Seriously? The amount of damage done by things in hard mode is literally shocking. The turrets spawned in Battle of Ilum on the boss with the inq and the sniper and as soon as they popped i shot my one pointless single target taunt into one and in the time it took for that dart to leave me and hit the turret my healer went from 80% hp to 0 hp.

3. I have 3 and 8 tionese coms and crystals and ive killed 6 or 8 bosses over 3 unbeatable hard mode flashpoints.

4. We die litterally untill we realize the flashpoint isnt beatable and move to another. Its just a flashpoint. Do you understand that? ITS....JUST....A....FLASHPOINT. This isnt some ultra exclusive last boss in the game nonsense no...its just....a flashpoint. Why do we have to die 40 times and quit on a hard mode while the normal modes we die none and the gear is redundant.

5. The only way to beat bosses is exploiting. You have to drag around a boss untill he gets glitched in a corner and cant shoot anymore or he drops into a small tear in the ground and cant line of sight you but you can line of sight him. You guys made a game that is so hard people who want to play and enjoy the game literally have to cheat to play.

6. The gear is redundant EXTREMELY quickly on medium mode flashpoints. I mean by the time you finish ilum all the mediums that drop Correllia coms are worthless and a waste of time.

7. You F'd us big time on light pop servers with the new pvp level cap. There are only 20 level 50's in our entire server 5 or 6 of us pvp'd. The republic has 10 or 15 level 50's of which 3 or 4 pvp. So you literally ended our pvp.

So now what? We can do medium flashpoints for nothing. We cant pvp. We cant do hard flashpoints....For a game thats more or less been out for 3 years...Im shocked. I feel the same way I did in Rift when i got to 50. I get on the forums to ask ok what now. You need 300 pvp commendations of which you get a couple a day for 1 item and you need 300 pve commendations of which you get one a day and no one raids in that. One person said reroll, one said craft, two trolls called me an idiot and I cancelled the sub.

So is SWTOR another one month and quit mmo? What now? This is a serious post. I need to know where to go.

Edit: If anyone is curious I have 2 level 50's. Object who was the first to 50 on my server a marauder and Darkforces a 50 powertech. This post is getting too long already if anyone is interested in talking specifics in specific flashpoints just say so.

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Trayne_
01.19.2012 , 12:42 AM | #2
Do your dailies and mod your gear. Then you can start hard mode flash points.
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Reii
01.19.2012 , 12:51 AM | #3
Powertech/Vanguard complaining about aoe threat and damage taken?

Can't tell if troll.

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Raynn
01.19.2012 , 01:02 AM | #4
Dailies is the best way to get gear early on. The mods help alot. Other then that use Black Talon and Boarding Party to get some quick gear. It should help you. Issue is probably jumping to the harder FP early on. Directive 7, Battle for Illum, and Foundary are probably the roughest (minus the new one). They take some work. Also make sure you guys are interrupting what you're supposed to be interrupting on mobs.

Practice, learn, and apply. Others have cleared the content you are currently doing and beyond. It is possible. It is not broken, you just need to tweak some things with yourself or your group and make sure you are using all your classes abilities.

This game isn't that hard until you get into HM or Nightmare Operations. You just can't expect to tank and heal thru everything. This is not WOTLK and with any luck it never will be.

PS: No boss hits for 8-10k unless its an interruptable ability the team just missed. The only boss that comes close is the one in Battle for Illum when he spawns the 4 adds. But they are NORMAL mobs, and susceptible to stuns and knockdowns. The just hit like trucks. And dont hit the boss when his shield is up. If you'd read the buffs on him you'd realize when shield is up it REFLECTS dmg back at you. Since the 1.1 patch the nerfed him, because people were so QQ so you should have less issues with him.

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nothingavailable
01.19.2012 , 01:09 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Raynn View Post
Dailies is the best way to get gear early on. The mods help alot. Other then that use Black Talon and Boarding Party to get some quick gear. It should help you. Issue is probably jumping to the harder FP early on. Directive 7, Battle for Illum, and Foundary are probably the roughest (minus the new one). They take some work. Also make sure you guys are interrupting what you're supposed to be interrupting on mobs.

Practice, learn, and apply. Others have cleared the content you are currently doing and beyond. It is possible. It is not broken, you just need to tweak some things with yourself or your group and make sure you are using all your classes abilities.
Thats what I needed to know Raynn. We jumped into battle for Ilum and one of the new one...cant even remember the name. Rakghoul one very left 4 dead like. We beat Black Talon I got some bracers off the last boss. I gotta get my undergeared guild into some purples and out of the greens and blues too. Thanks.

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Raynn
01.19.2012 , 01:16 AM | #6
That seems to be the main issue right now, is people are little lost when they get to 50 (those of us that have right now). On my server (Lord Praven) there's only 3 guilds currently running HM Ops. Luckily I'm part of one. We have two 8 man groups currently up and running and made it all the way to Soa on HM. Just try to recruit as much as you can and find good peeps to roll with. Unfortunalty, not everyone can handle end game, but trust me the work you put into it is well worth it when you stand over the BAMF your guild just cleared.

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mgaizo
01.19.2012 , 01:27 AM | #7
Maybe you just suck?

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GamerSmurf
01.19.2012 , 01:40 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by nothingavailable View Post
1. 2 Taunts, 1 of which has a 45 second timer. Now it hasnt been in issue but in hard mode there are waves of mobs in many many areas that come at maybe 20 second intervals. So that aoe taunt is pointless. Making highest dps or anyone aoe'ing main tank and negating any sort of purpose a main tank has other than some added dps. The taunts in this game are poorly thought out and not taken into mind in hard mode.
You don't have to tank every mob, concentrate on Gold and all the Silvers you can pick up, slow down the rest (even a couple of seconds help).

I have no troubles so far on a Juggernaut Tank, and they aren't exactly legendary in the AOE Threat department...

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munkiseventeen
01.19.2012 , 01:49 AM | #9
You're bad dude... and if you're the most geared person on your server... you must be the only one on it.

Try changing your attitude and find someone willing to help you learn to play, instead of having the "it's unbeatable" attitude.

I beat just about every hardmode flashpoint before the game went live on the 20th, in early release. It's sometimes tough before you're geared, but not impossible.

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Sorny
01.19.2012 , 01:53 AM | #10
none of the fp are impossible, most of the so called "hard" bosses are only dps races, like the BoI boss who spawns the adds, everyone has a knockback or aoe stun, to control the adds when they spawn.

aoe taunt shouldnt be used on every pull, its for when you lose agro and need it back fast, a quick aoe will get most mobs back unless some dps is going to town on them (and if they are, it means they will die soon anyway), compared to other games where aoe taunt has a 3min+ CD, a 45sec CD is already nice enough.

basically the most important tip i can give is to learn the tactics, i dont mean browse youtube for them or ask on the forums, just watch the bosses buffs, debuffs, adds etc, theres always a (simple) solution, and if not, its just a dps race to the enrage timer.

oh and if you are getting hit for 10k, its either a boss mechanic (such as the laser eye guy in taral V you have to LoS), a skill you need to interrupt, or when they hit enrage, all of which you can avoid with teamwork and good dps.