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Is anyone leveling Madness over Deception?

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Is anyone leveling Madness over Deception?

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12.15.2011 , 09:05 PM | #11
my build contains almost as much madness as deception and it's fantastic in my opinion. madness has some very good abilities at its disposal.
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12.16.2011 , 05:02 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Invitcted View Post
Not to mention madness is a dots spec.


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12.16.2011 , 05:27 AM | #13
Gonna try something like this:

I think it has the potential to be realy good, but i guess time will tell.

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12.16.2011 , 01:58 PM | #14
I'm leveling in Madness spec. I like the Death Field opener along with Khem Vals aoe ability.
The self healing from Parasitism is still weak without Corruption, but will probably catch up later on.
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12.16.2011 , 05:50 PM | #15
Nope, I'm levelling as deception. Mainly because the playstyle is more my type. Madness looks interesting as well though. Gah, too many choices :P

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12.16.2011 , 06:27 PM | #16
Personally, I am leveling as deception. However, I am also leveling in a group that contains a tank and occasionally a healer (if not companions). I do know from beta experience that deception is a fine spec for solo leveling.

That said, Madness starts to become viable once you obtain death field. It is my strong opinion that early madness talents are not worth the point cost due to how quickly you will drain your force trying to make use of the talents. Also, Lightning Charge and is associated discharge are more or less useless for general mob killing, but do have greater effect against elite level and higher mobs.

So, while possible to power through it (honestly 10 levels isn't too bad), I wouldn't put up madness as the most efficient leveling spec until post level 20, but after then it provides it's own unique style and a good experience. I also don't recommend finishing the tree before level 50, taking secondary talents elsewhere after roughly 28 points to maximize dps against lower hp mobs.

These are just my opinions and experience gained from levelling the mirror class to 50 three times during beta. But I hope they are helpful.
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12.17.2011 , 01:38 PM | #17
Is leveling in a specific tree really that important? I mean, before lvl 20 everything seems really easy. I had absolutely no problem taking out mobs (if anything I finish them off too fast! haha) and none of the content is really super challenging. So why worry about min/maxing at all?

I've been leveling (currently lvl 22) as madness... though I did pick up a few points in the deception tree (2 points in dark embrace) and 1 point so far in the darkness tree (in charge mastery). Seems fine for me.

So far my only complaint is that the healing from parasitism seems to be non-existent.

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12.17.2011 , 05:35 PM | #18
I'm leveling as madness and enjoying it. It's a fun mix of melee and force damage, and has less focus on stealth and positional abilities than deception. I don't think it's really appropriate to say either is "the leveling spec" either way, because both are quite effective.

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12.18.2011 , 07:04 AM | #19
I switched to Madness at 27 or 28 and had tremendous success with it. I can still tank flashpoints easily (might help that we have good healers though) and AoE through stuff while leveling. Single target is pretty good with Unearthed Knowledge + DoT. Burst might not be so strong but Assassinate helps when you get it. I just finished Chapter 1 and I am still enjoying it as hell.