Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion

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Post 1.1 Ilum PVP Issues Discussion

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EternalFinality

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #751
Quote: Originally Posted by Jassie Baron Deathmark: These are the rules of Ilum: Two factions. One favored, the other screwed. Name calling, spawn camping, and valor exploitation ARE encouraged! Baron Deathmark: This has to be the WORST defense in Republic history! Baron Deathmark: Republic has a new strategy - let the Imperials win! Baron Deathmark: That has to be the worst spawn camping in MMO history...really, REALLY bad. Baron Deathmark: Republic guy has spawned - run Republic guy! Baron Deathmark: Republic defense....goes nowhere fast!

FignarKrynn

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #752
I think I forgive SOE for the CU and NGE after this lol - youtube vid just killed it
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vrgadin

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #753
Quote: Originally Posted by Sinvx I am a republic player, and you're all a bunch of whiney drama queens. Even if Bioware made everything all right, you guys would still be mad about something. PvP isnt the only thing in this game. ur an imp, dont lie
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sylusmoonsnake

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #754
Yep just confirmed Ilum is being completely boycotted on my server. General chat is rolling text that if you are 50 do no go to Ilum until fixed.
Real PVP is not rage quitting and then crying Nerf to the class that smashed your face in. Its taking a curb stomp to the face and then learning what you did wrong, not assuming you did everything right and they were just OP.

AdmiralOnasi

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #755
"Potential" problems? That's like saying Charles Manson was "potentially" a serial killer.
Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgZoeller We have very measurable statistics that tell us if people lose a certain number of Warzones in a row being stun locked by a team of Operatives, then that might be part of that, and they will be not as likely to re-subscribe. Show me a team made entirely of Sco/Ops and I'll eat the hat of your choice.

Jarwind

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #756
Canceled my subscription KKTHXBAI!

LovarBoy

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #757
Dear CM's, get your ** off and write some statements.*

sanctimonia

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #758
Screen? Vid? I have yet to see turrets give valor.

DarthGraveyard

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #759
Something i noticed is its just the republic QQing about this because we occupied there base on illum for the last couple of hours. Guess what it wasn't "Easy" we had multiple ops running with actual teamwork. Something i havn't seen since this game came out. Republic players and the rest of the QQ ppl need to learn if you don't want to get farmed learn to play. There was a couple times the republic actually pushed us out of the base. thats why we had 3 ops that was communicating with each-other. learn from this and move on. I have alot of screen shots that prove the numbers wern't super unbalanced. we just had better teamwork which is why we S&Med you guys. Simple, don't try and fix something thats not broken, learn to play a game the way REAL hard corps players do, not "Dev's plz carry us" During the past few hr's that i was in illum doing this stuff (on the swiftsure) we had the 3 top skilled (Sry Zerg don't mean u have skill) guilds working together to beat you....... which is how it should be. EDIT: Turrets Give ZERO valor. This has been confirmed and i will probably post a screenshot after work.
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lexiekaboom

01.18.2012 , 01:35 PM \| #760
1) Open work PVP can't work unless there is a reasonable balance. If one faction can just toss numbers at the other faction, where is the fun? Illum (and TOR in general) has no way of dealing with a faction advantage. You might try doing this with NPCs that spawn and help the losing team HUGE advantages for playing for the losing team Combat buffs for the disadvantaged teams. Limiting the number of one team in the zone at a time (instancing) 2) If the reward for winning is stuff that makes it easier to win, it is not possible to have a long term balanced game. You can prove this by using simple mathematical modelling, I'm sure some of your coders must be able to do this. Start with two teams with a 50/50 chance of "winning" and determine a winner at random. Give that winner a 1% bonus chance to win, and remove that chance to win from the loser (such that after one game the chances to win are 51% vs. 49%) Run this 1,000,000 times and see what happens (hint, one sides chance of winning will be 0, the others 100) 3) If every single person in your player bases tells you something isn't going to work, it likely will not work. Listen to them. 4) Roll back the change that makes it so you earn less when you lose a war zone, it didn't help 5) Make the valor reward for being on illum FOR BEING ON THE ILLUM and not relate to kills.

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