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Sith don't feel Sith and other story telling fails *some spoilers*

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Sith don't feel Sith and other story telling fails *some spoilers*

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FuriousMoo
01.18.2012 , 09:01 AM | #1
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength."

We all know this right? Of course we do, but let me ask you this....where is the passion?

I've finished the Inquisitor storyline and am about half way through the Warrior storyline and I have yet to encounter any passion at all. What on earth is going on with these deadpan and bland Sith?
Not once have I even heard my characters raise their voices...not ONCE. The closest thing I've seen to anger is a bit of a frown and a monotone "It will be a pleasure killing you". Will it be a pleasure? Because from the tone of their voice they could be talking about doing the washing up.
I've seen more excitement out of Spock then any of the Sith. I mean the Sith are all about raw unbridled emotion so why does none of this come through in any of the dialogue and cut scenes?

This was really hammered home to me during the Warrior quest where you fight Jaesa's master and get her as a companion. This was the first time I've seen any emotion in the game and it was from a freaking Jedi! And even then it was weak. Cast your mind back and compare it to Anakin's "fall" scenes......the guy was an emotional mess.

Then there is Jaesa's herself. You've been tormenting her throughout the game, have murdered her friends and parents and the best she can come up with is a bit of a nag.......
As for her fall to the dark side (if you went that way); she goes from paragon of virtue to "Do you know what, I quite fancy a bit of cold blooded murder" in about 30 seconds, but again in a totally stoic way with no emotion. It was easier to tempt her into murdering her master and mentor then it would be tempting a fat boy with a free burger.

All I can say is; terrible terrible voice acting...shame on you Bioware. I'm angry that you have squandered the opportunity for a powerful and engaging scene (or better yet series of scenes) of Jaesa's fall to the dark side and I know you will not be changing it, but in the future could we get some voice actors that can actually act rather then drone off lines from a script....

I know it can be challenging to portray emotion with fairly simplistic cartoon faces, but I'm not asking for oscar winning performances, just something better then monotone and deadpan delivery.

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Calax
01.18.2012 , 09:22 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by FuriousMoo View Post
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength."

We all know this right? Of course we do, but let me ask you this....where is the passion?

I've finished the Inquisitor storyline and am about half way through the Warrior storyline and I have yet to encounter any passion at all. What on earth is going on with these deadpan and bland Sith?
Not once have I even heard my characters raise their voices...not ONCE. The closest thing I've seen to anger is a bit of a frown and a monotone "It will be a pleasure killing you". Will it be a pleasure? Because from the tone of their voice they could be talking about doing the washing up.
I've seen more excitement out of Spock then any of the Sith. I mean the Sith are all about raw unbridled emotion so why does none of this come through in any of the dialogue and cut scenes?

This was really hammered home to me during the Warrior quest where you fight Jaesa's master and get her as a companion. This was the first time I've seen any emotion in the game and it was from a freaking Jedi! And even then it was weak. Cast your mind back and compare it to Anakin's "fall" scenes......the guy was an emotional mess.

Then there is Jaesa's herself. You've been tormenting her throughout the game, have murdered her friends and parents and the best she can come up with is a bit of a nag.......
As for her fall to the dark side (if you went that way); she goes from paragon of virtue to "Do you know what, I quite fancy a bit of cold blooded murder" in about 30 seconds, but again in a totally stoic way with no emotion. It was easier to tempt her into murdering her master and mentor then it would be tempting a fat boy with a free burger.

All I can say is; terrible terrible voice acting...shame on you Bioware. I'm angry that you have squandered the opportunity for a powerful and engaging scene (or better yet series of scenes) of Jaesa's fall to the dark side and I know you will not be changing it, but in the future could we get some voice actors that can actually act rather then drone off lines from a script....

I know it can be challenging to portray emotion with fairly simplistic cartoon faces, but I'm not asking for oscar winning performances, just something better then monotone and deadpan delivery.
Have you done the lovers quest on Typhon?

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Karkais
01.18.2012 , 09:25 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Calax View Post
Have you done the lovers quest on Typhon?
Whats that got to do with sith?
"Their strength became my own. Their minds became my own. All flesh is my flesh. None move, save I will it. This is the rule the Sith were promised, and I have made it real!"
- From the codex of Karness Muur

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FuriousMoo
01.18.2012 , 09:29 AM | #4
Yeah...not exactly Romeo and Juliet was it. I vaguely recall the girl being a bit surely and the guy a bit whinny, but neither of them really behaving like their love and relationship were being threatened.

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Weezyfb
01.18.2012 , 09:40 AM | #5
Ugh Thana Vesh would like a word with you, as with many others. The sith who go around wailing and screaming do not live long. Yes we engage in our passions but we dont have to be freakin Tarzan


"You betrayed me" Ughagahahahagahahagaha"

A nice little something like " i will enjoy breaking you" does the job

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DarkestDaemon
01.18.2012 , 11:13 AM | #6
Look at Palpatine, for example. The moment he does go emotional and crazy, he ends up getting thrown down a shaft in the Death Star. Vader, when he shows emotion, ends up getting fried by Force Lightning.

To put it simply, while Sith know that it is emotion that gives them power... it doesn't mean they're going to be recreating Dragonball Z with lightsabers.

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Kekkles
01.18.2012 , 12:15 PM | #7
Darth Baras has a lot of passion. Passion for force lighteninging prisoners.

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tausra
01.18.2012 , 06:05 PM | #8
Remember Passion is fuel, but showing your enemy how impassioned you are is like showing him your poker hand. People who are impassioned do not make the smartest choices and can be manipulated. In game passion is displayed by tonal inflection.

Take the line "I will enjoy breaking you"
An angry Sith might say it like this "I will enjoy breaking you."
A hateful Sith could say it as: "I will enjoy breaking you"
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MoistMuffin
01.18.2012 , 06:10 PM | #9
You can be passionate without herp derp.

Also good call on Thana Vesh above, I killed her because she was an annoying slag.
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Claidh
01.19.2012 , 12:59 AM | #10
A quiet voice and well spoken threat is infinitely more frightening than all the screaming and war cries you can muster.

I usually give the example of Jubal Early in the Firefly episode "Objects in Space". He is clearly in control of his circumstances, he lets you know that you don't have a chance against him, and he never once raises his voice. The scene in the engine room with Kaylee actually makes my wife very uncomfortable.
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