Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

Seems to me that the main argument of the 'heroes' here who claim that gunslingers are actually excellent class with no need for any change/buff is ------> 'you need to get the battlemaster gear'

Is that really the only way to improve the class usefulness considering horrible issues we have in PvP due to dependency on the shabby cover mechanic?

I am valor 42 gunslinger and i know what i'm talking about. In 1 v 1 conditions we can get mauled by any sane player playing any other class. In PvP our damage output is mediocre at best ( often overshadowed by jedi sage/sith sorc, commando/bh, scoundrel/operative ), while our mobility is almost nonexistant if we play sharpshooter spec. Some call it: ''immovable turret''...Yes, there is dirty fighting tree, which basically lets you retain some mobility at the huge cost of energy consumption and it's not really viable build for PvE where u need a constant stream of quick damage ( not dots ). And we all know respec costs in this game...

There is a reason this is the least played class in game. Many people are simply saying: 'you picked a wrong smuggler...'

I think that sums it up pretty much.

Few notes about "Ballistic shield".

I strongly believe it works exactly as operative counterpart "Infiltrate", e. g. adds + 20 % hard damage mitigation to the allies in 10 m radius but not to the sniper himself (infiltrate hides allies in 10 m radius but not operative himself).

So using bullistic shield to susrvive (like some dude said) and not to help surviving allies is a vaste of time.

So rank 42 valor means you must absolutely know what you're talking about? Right. Ok. I've seen good gunslingers (WITHOUT Battlemaster gear) put up crazy numbers consistently and WIN 1v1s regularly. A good sniper can kill me in about 5 seconds. You get cover which prevents them from closing the gap. Just toss out some snares/CCs and blow them up in about 3 attacks. If you're in a bad position, well, it's your own fault for not realizing you're playing a turret.

No, rank 42 obviously means 'i am absolutely totally clueless on how my class acts in PvP conditions' in your world.

They win 1 vs 1? Against whom, sentinel in greens? Wearing which equipment? Champion? Did you see it on let's say 20-30 occasions by yourself? Or you just heard your mates bragging about it?

First of all, it's really obvious you've never played a sniper/gunslinger cause you wouldn't be writting this kind of philosophising/theoretical smack;

What class do you play? For in this case I could say the same for you: 'it's L2P issue' - but i won't cause that really got STALE.

'toss out some snares/cc them', lol?! Which snares? With my 'mighty' 2 cc abilities? Which ones? The one with 30 sec or 1 min CD? Cause i will be dead by then so i guess i have to pick wisely. Why would i for example want to snare a ranged class if i want to dps them? Others can use escape or whatever ability they have to brake of my 'superior cc' anyway and it's not like i'm gonna kite them when i'm dependant on cover mechanic. Have you ever seen a duel between a sith sorc and gunslinger? I bet you haven't You wouldn't be saying 'blow them up in 3 attacks' ---> That is something operative/scoundrel does. Same goes for Sage/Sorc. We simply can't - our damage is ok, but not 1-3 shotter

Our damage is mediocre at best if compared to those 2 classes ( They mostly top the wz damage list on my server, together with commando )

Wrakk just reroll another class.
Sniper/Gunslinger is retarded and needs to be deleted if they are not going to fix it.


These people who comment are like the rest of the sheep and play lolclasses. You went for diversity so shame on you, had you rolled an easy class that was setup properly for you then you wouldn't have to worry about it but its your fault. So why you here QQ up our forums?!? We want this forums filled with NERFS not buffs to broken classes PLEASE LEAVE.

Ya you probably should reroll

Snipers arent going to be fixed short of some kind of major overhaul. Minor tweaks will do nothing. By the time that happens.... expansion pack?

Jawas anyone?

Valor rank 60 full Champ/BM geared sniper and the only problem i have is seeing the words "deflect" over n over, need more tech attacks did BW think all i wanted to do was throw bombs shoot darts and use orbital strike over n over..

gunslingers and snipers are no wear near underpowerd in fact they are quite OP


they have there little cover sheild which increaes in size to a bigger sheild then they have that huge sheild barrier and this makes them tough as hell.

that alone is crazy


if you can actualy get to the gunslinger before he 2 shots you the knockback root spam is quite anoying.
they also get a knockback shot which sends you flying.

they get other CC abilitys


they can sit there in place in cover with 5 people pounding on them dishing out silly damage like they can.


now i can say this is defunatly a l2p issue.

Gunslingers are decent in pve as others have stated. (regardless of the terrible mechanics of 90% of boss fights that make us constantly move). Its REALLY hard to see how a Slinger does in top gear because we're like the freakin Yeti...I have Yeti to see a high valor Slinger..(waka waka waka). But seriously. The Slinger needs a LOT of help. I understand that people say "Oh its a complicated class, not for the meek". Well ...we must be the only 'complicated class'. I didn't sign up for complicated. I signed up for performing a role..and the Gunslinger has no role atm that others can't fill better. We can do good damage ..in optimal situations..(ie the other team is bad). Ask any of your imp buddies whats the first dude they look for and I bet 99.9% will say the Slinger crouching. I know...I'm the one sitting in the back while your running past 4 of my teammates to forcepull my rear end into your death circle. How about this..how about you make Aimed shot like the Sorc lighting of death...I want to spam aimed shot..then we can see how complicated this class can be.