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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Gohr-
01.23.2012 , 07:26 AM | #161
I fairly like my gunslinger. You can really cover a zone as soon as youīre set up IF cover is working. Thatīs the only part nagging me. Abilities bug. You see, like kicking that guy in the nuts, aiming at him while heīs out and then - plop - nothing happens. Thatīs really something that needs a fix.

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Moolah
01.23.2012 , 07:27 AM | #162
It's a shame this thread is of low quality as gunslingers most definitely need some attention of the developers. I am not referring to a blatant buff however, as most posters seem to oppose to in this thread. I am asking for a fix to some glaring bugs and short-sighted decisions.

General bugs such as armor mitigation and ability delay seem to disfavor Gunslingers by a large margin in addition to some class specific bugs such as immobility debuffs refraining taking cover. Also, a complete class tree is nullified the moment the opponent learns to dispell.



There are some well-written posts about the sorry state of Gunslingers on the appropriate forum, they seem to be of no avail however. I laugh everytime I see the statement: "You decide what changes we make." It took them 2 months to fix a simple cooldown difference between snipers and gunslingers.

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FuriCuri
01.23.2012 , 07:32 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Scotland View Post
timing is everything

when hunker down is up you cannot be knocked out of cover, if you picked a good spot to go into cover you should be ok unless you have 3 people on you, any class should die then.

with sharpshooter you have it up for a long time and the cooldown isnt that far away from the effect dropping off, best bet is to get out of focus from the enemy and start over.

there is pretty good defense effects for moving and re-entering cover, its worth it on occasion.

in saying that, the wrong spot, a very mobile enemy and/or los can be a problem at times.
You say that you must use ability that hunker you for 20 sec then you say that you must move.

Listen, I know a lot about PvP with slinger but thinking about HD is our answer to all bugs and inconvience we have is too much.
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Kazzilla
01.23.2012 , 07:33 AM | #164
I enjoy my gunslinger.

Aside from the bugs that need to be worked out, it is absolutely fine.

I think most of the problems people have are positioning. It is very hard to beat an even opponent one-on-one, but possible.

The key is to stay near the healer but be in a place where you don't draw attention. If your opponents are any good, they will focus down the healer and let you go to town on them. With the amount of CC and burst damage, you should be able to focus down targets very quickly with the other dps.

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Kaptain_Kabul
01.23.2012 , 07:37 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by FuriCuri View Post
Our top tier 6 and 7 Sharpshooter skill tree abilities are focused on Speed Shot skill which firing channeling pew-pew shots giving basically everyone and their grandmas a hint "go kill that sniper - he's over there!" Not to mention it deals crap damage and no burst whatsoever.
You do it wrong!

When used right, it melts people away. Also use speed relic and black market mods before you start Speed shooting people. It's a lot different if you channeling in 3 sec doing 3K or 1,4 secs doing 3K damage in that time, while you can recast it almost instant.

You can basically melt a healer out of a group.

I got swarmed, no escape possible.

Hunker down, blow defensive cooldowns, Speed relic on, blackmarket mods on. Melting their Sorc out of a grp of 5 before they could kill me, in like 5-6 seconds.

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MightyHalo
01.23.2012 , 07:46 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Amp_ View Post
A class can be countered through proper tactics. The horror of it all.

The problem I see with most cover based class players is they just sit there expecting the melee on top of them to somehow lose by a miracle. They have no idea how to create space again. I'm level 21 on my Sniper and can do it because I already have 4 (technically 5) different CC's available. It's not rocket science.

This is why you see people constantly going "buff this" and "nerf that." Because they don't want to learn how to be effective. They just want their class moved into the realm of being easier to play. If you would spend less time complaining and more time learning strategy, then you would be better off for it.
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TepiNyan
01.23.2012 , 07:50 AM | #167
I think snipers and gunslingers need a pet that they can bring in wz.

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DarthSunshine
01.23.2012 , 07:58 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by FuriCuri View Post
Those numbers were prior 1.1 against low geared 50- randoms. And you probably top geared.
I don't know about him but last week post 1.1 my 50 Slinger SS did over 300k in dmg. I went 53-2 on Voidstar. This is a L2P issue. I am always in the top 3 for damage. Usually top spot. I run a minimum 6:1 KD, and usually have a top 5 objective score as well. Even against 50s I'm critting over 4K and I have only 2/5 Champ pieces. It's ridiculous. I can 1v1 3/4 classes w/o breaking a sweat. If you guys want a buff I won't complain...I'll take it and lay waste more than I already do.

L2P guys. Crazy thing...this is my first MMO.

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mufutiz
01.23.2012 , 07:59 AM | #169
I think one of the reasons snipers seem lacking is just how blatantly overpowered some other classes are.

I would go as far as saying Snipers are one of the, if not the most balanced class around.
When you put a sorc or merc next to them, every class will look weak.

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Scotland
01.23.2012 , 08:08 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by FuriCuri View Post
You say that you must use ability that hunker you for 20 sec then you say that you must move.

Listen, I know a lot about PvP with slinger but thinking about HD is our answer to all bugs and inconvience we have is too much.
to be fair i dont know what you mean with what you have said.

im not saying you have to do anything, as it is all situational decisions.

and i never said we didnt have bugs that needed sorted.