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Same gender relationships clarifications?

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Same gender relationships clarifications?

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elexier
01.17.2012 , 10:16 AM | #1
And I do not mean the same copy paste message that gets thrown onto every topic that discusses this, I mean no offense to the admins but a bit of clarification would be nice.

Things to clarify:

1 - A rough eta on same sex relationships (flirting ect) Were not after a nailed down etched in stone, be all end all date, Just a rough idea. A week/Month maybe 3 ect ?

2 - Those that happen to pick the "wrong" gender at creation are currently missing out with regards to there story arc, In my example Female sentinel missing out with Kira. There are 2 ways I see to fix this.

2a - Re-write those sections to include the same options for both genders and allow players already past to "Redo" there conversations. (Bit difficult and a lot of reworking)

2b - Create equivalent content for same gender romance at level 50 (or once the CURRENT story arc is finished) So by the end of it EVERYONE has had the same options REGARDLESS of the gender they chose.

3 - This is more of a given I think, but will there be more customization options for your companions. For example something to just change your companions hair color or skin tone. (I say its a given because its something so obvious that can be expanded upon and require very little work)

These are the questions to the Developers.

My question to the forum baring in mind we already know more companions are coming with these options enabled already.

Witch do you prefer option 2a or option 2b ?

Ps - Due to threads being closed due to flame wars ect, please keep it civil and just ignore/report those that attempt to start one, And please stay on topic. I will update a count of witch is preferred every 2 days or so. (WTB poll option)

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elexier
01.17.2012 , 10:20 AM | #2
------Reserved for poll results

Witch is preferred option 2a or 2b in the above post.

I THINK ITS A LANDSLIDE VICTORY

Option 2a - 24

Option 2b - 7

Option 3 - 1
It has come to my attention that there appears to be a THIRD option so I am Including it here rather than the main post.

OPTION 3 (Its all becomes clear please read)


FIRST - At the character creation screen, just after you select your gender you get to pick your ROMANCE PREFERENCE.

Straight - Male > Female or Male > Female, romance options (You can ONLY romance the opposite sex)

Bi - Male > Male, Female > Female, Male > Female, Female > Male, (You can romance ANYONE that is romancable)

Homosexual/Lesbian - Male > Male, Female > Female. (Only those of the same sex)

Asexual (I think thats the right word) - No Romance options ever appear.


SECONDLY - Make EVERY single romancable companion BISEXUAL, This is crucial for this to work and you will see why in a moment.

THIRDLY - When the romance options normally appear the game does a quick check to see the characters preference and acts accordingly.

FORTH and FINAL - Reset EVERY ONES companion quests to the beginning, Not only would this put EVERYONE on the same page, But also allow those that wish to to record (using fraps or whatever) there own little companion story if they wish.


Unless I am very much mistaken Very little or even No dialog actually need to change, (Unless there is specific gender references any of the conversations. (ie one calling the other boy/guy or girl/woman. And even if there is it would take all of what 2 min to record an appropriate line.


This allows....

Those that do not wish to "See" the options able to toggle them off at creation, Or heck they can get rid of the romances altogether if they so desire.

------------Witch ones---------------

It has come to my attention that there are some people that belive only certain ones should be Bi/gay so simple question witch ones. (Ill try to keep up with you lot :P)

Kira Carsen
Doc
Zenith
LT Iresso
Theran Cedrex
Nadia Grell
Andronikus Revel
Ashara Zavros
Vette
Jaesa Willsaam
Malavi Quinn
LT Pierce
Aric Jorgan
Elara Dorne
Corso Riggs
Risha
Alcavi Spaar
Mako
Torian Caldera
Kaliyo Djannis
Vector Hyllis
Ensign Raia Temple

Take from http://www.hotrodacc.com/swtor/comp.html, If I missed one let me know.

Vote away.

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Rayla_Felana
01.17.2012 , 10:30 AM | #3
I second these questions.

A mix of both, As i imagine they will expand upon the current companions anyway in line with the coming content expansions and inevitable level cap increase.

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Bielduwyn
01.17.2012 , 10:57 AM | #4
Didn't they say when they announced that SGRAs would be a post-launch feature that they'd implement them through brand new companions rather than making existing ones turn bi? (Even though I totally see Kaliyo as being bi, she tends to get jealous when men hit on my FemAgent)

So if they're sticking to this, your female Knight won't be getting frisky with her padawan in a hurry one way or the other.

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elexier
01.17.2012 , 11:44 AM | #5
Yes they said it was to be a post launch feature, but I Do not recall them saying that existing companions were NOT included, Only that new companions would have these options.

Everything that is sensible is open to negotiation.

Also they do not mention when you create your character that a certain gender is required to be able to get the FULL story available for that class.

If enough people ask for it, I am sure Bio-ware WILL attempt to accommodate as best they can.

So we know that the options are coming, I'm asking what form are they coming in and a rough eta. Also witch option would you prefer.

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Auricelia
01.17.2012 , 12:19 PM | #6
I find it interesting that Bioware closed a substantially larger threat and pointed us to this thread for discussion. If anyone would like to see prior debate, here you go.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=189635

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Cayse_Harker
01.17.2012 , 12:22 PM | #7
I've said it before in other threads, but for me Kaliyo is the only romance option that seems right for a grey/darkish female cypher nine. I don't see that character as likely to pursue any of the other options and I'm actually holding that character until the option is either available or confirmed as dismissed by the devs.

As someone said in another recent thread the team that works on this is almost certainly different that the UI and core systems teams so it won't take time away from bug fixing efforts. Also in many cases (at least the 3 classes I have tried) it really shouldn't take a ton of extra studio time to add this option to existing companions.

For me this is up there with chat bubbles, increased mount speed and re-adding beta armor as content additions I'd like to see in the near future.

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Polynut
01.17.2012 , 12:24 PM | #8
i'll consider cancelling my subsciption if khem val isn't a romance option in the future.

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KennethHoover
01.17.2012 , 12:27 PM | #9
I would also like to see more variability in the romance options. I mean, this isn't 1952 anymore. If it chaps someone who cares? It would greatly benefit RP aspects as well.
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Vodalus
01.17.2012 , 12:30 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Auricelia View Post
I find it interesting that Bioware closed a substantially larger threat and pointed us to this thread for discussion. If anyone would like to see prior debate, here you go.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=189635
I can honestly say that I would not be surprised to see this one closed as well. They've not left a single SGRA thread open since the forum wipe @ launch. I'm also not surprised to see a larger thread closed and redirected to a smaller one. This is also pretty common around here.

That said, this thread was better written and articulated with an opening that is structured such that it will hopefully engender more constructive discourse.

@OP: Maybe I'm mistaken, as I haven't gotten very far in any companion quests/stories yet, but isn't the dialog unlock based on companion affection score (so long as you meet the minimum level requirement)? If so, then as long as you don't play out the companion stories before it's implemented, then you should be able to simply jump in and play it at that time.

Of course, if you have already played through the companion dialog and stories, then we're back to the issue that you raised. I'm inclined to side with your option 2b in that case. Maybe through this discussion we'll figure out other ways that it can be done and hope that BW is listening to the ideas.
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