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To the "Nothing to do at 50" crowd.

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To the "Nothing to do at 50" crowd.

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Vlaxitov
03.14.2012 , 04:21 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by stevaras View Post
find me an MMO that has dailies deserving a nomination for super fan oscar.
you are just one more parrot.
./gives Polly a craker.
I liked the sunwell dailies, they were short & sweet, somewhat fun, and didn't feel as much like a chore as anyother dailies I've done in mmos. The sunwell dailies get my vote for oscar nomination.

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PostalTwinkie
03.14.2012 , 04:23 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
I hit 50 last week .....
This is where I stopped reading, because you haven't been 50 long enough to understand our situation. After you are 50, on several characters, for awhile you can come talk to us about this issue.
Quote: Originally Posted by Blavatsky View Post
Problems of the First World.

"My Video Game Dev implements improvements to my gaming experience in a clandestine manner , this is costing me virtual money "

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chrisftw
03.14.2012 , 04:26 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Bodypull View Post
So,

Level, Craft, talk to people, raid and quest (do dailies.)

Ok this is every MMO on the planet Earth.
let me guess Guild Wars 2 will change everything. instead of experience your CD-ROM drive will shoot out money and all your hopes and dreams will come true once you hit max level

amiright?
Tell me more Brotholomew.

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PostalTwinkie
03.14.2012 , 04:27 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by chrisftw View Post
let me guess Guild Wars 2 will change everything. instead of experience your CD-ROM drive will shoot out money and all your hopes and dreams will come true once you hit max level

amiright?
Your mount will also have glitter farts....
Quote: Originally Posted by Blavatsky View Post
Problems of the First World.

"My Video Game Dev implements improvements to my gaming experience in a clandestine manner , this is costing me virtual money "

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Aethyriel
03.14.2012 , 04:34 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post
This is where I stopped reading, because you haven't been 50 long enough to understand our situation. After you are 50, on several characters, for awhile you can come talk to us about this issue.
That's it really. I log in 2 times a week for ~ 3 hours each day... to raid 8 man hm/nm and that is all. I have no reason to run Flashpoints with my main, I would with my alts, but they are both dps and standing on the fleet forever and trying to find a healer for hours is not fun.

PvP doesn't interest me for a huge amount of time, I play 1-2 wz a month maybe, I'm sick of dailies and the only ones that would actually help my gear I can't do most of the time because there is nobody willing to do the H2 quests, everything else is useless. Space Combat is boring, I got all epic upgrades on my ship and could clear the maps sleeping, ops is the same as fps, crafting is a joke once maxed out, there is no reason to RE anything or otherwise invest time/creds whatever.. speaking of creds, sitting on about 8 million so no reason to farm anything.

I miss things like farming reputation or doing achievements for titles, pets and mounts or running FPs with a LFG tool for badges to at least equip my companions... but the comm. system is so bad that it would take forever to get them all in columni gear. I rememeber in Rift I'd sometimes just farm artifacts for an hour or two while listening to music or watching a game or something or do some achievements for points/pets etc... SWTOR is just so linear... you can completely skip normal mode FPs, you run a few HC fps maybe until you find a grp to faceroll through Normal Mode Ops and that's it, you're stuck, there is no more progression gearwise except scheduled raiding or a lot of PVP grinding.

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jimmymurry
03.14.2012 , 04:47 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Rivianchief View Post
If you manage to be entertained by your 12 points for more than 1-2 weeks then its probably you who is boring.
Sorry but reading this I was already bored to death.

Its still a great game, just your post is really really for people who have nothing to do at all
He mentioned PvP and Raiding.... I think you are in the wrong game forum..... This is an MMO brag

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otterscrubber
03.14.2012 , 04:53 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Rivianchief View Post
If you manage to be entertained by your 12 points for more than 1-2 weeks then its probably you who is boring.
Sorry but reading this I was already bored to death.

Its still a great game, just your post is really really for people who have nothing to do at all
I think it's quite the opposite. His post is for people who have things to do, and play SWTOR in between. Which is a lot of people. If you have 20+ hours every week to sit and play games then you will be spending most of your time complaining that there is no content in games. Not because there is no content, but because your appetite for gaming consumes content at a rate that exceeds development of content.
This internet could be a nicer place, let's start here.
Whatever you read in my posts, I actually really like SWTOR

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Onibubu
03.14.2012 , 05:14 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
1: Run Flash Points.
2: Run Hard Mode Flash Points.
For what?
Operations yield same/greater rewards for lesser/same time/skill.
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
3: Do daily repeatable quests on Illum for gear upgrades or just for credits or just for (gasp) fun.
4: Do repeatable group quests on other planets, some of which have specific goals in mind, for instance, there is a planet where you can do daily group quests that reward orange level gear specifically for your companions.
I dont have Credits problems and most of my companions are full columi/rakata.
So what for?
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
5: Craft. Believe it or not, some people LOVe doing this and it is actually quite entertaining in this game.
Yes i do this... no wait... my companion does it.
1 Click and an hour nothing to do!
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
6: PVP. It's pretty good here. Lots of reasons to do this, particularly with the coming ranking system. This will keep some people very busy for days on end.
Yes correct. This is a valid point and i do this.
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
7: Socialize. Yes, people do still like to just "hang out" and have fun shooting the breeze. Get in there and meet new people you anti-social gits!
I have a guild and a pretty big friendslist. I dont need to socialize. And wait.. i think i prefer doing it in real live :-)
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
8: Space Combat. Many people enjoy this very much.
What for? Credit? Look above!
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
9: Run normal mode, 8 man operations. Some good story here and very simple to organize and complete.
10: Run hard mode, 8 man operations. Again, easy to organize but a much steeper learning curve with gear rewards that reflect this.
EV/KP and Story? Realy, i hope they put more story in the next operation.
And yea.. With nightmare content clear why should I run normal or HM?
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
11: Run 16 man normal operations. Harder to organize but much more epic in scale. If you have a big guild or a huge friends list or both, it's well worth the time to organize one of these and get it going.
12: Run 16 man operations on hard mode. Not for the feint of heart but just what the doctor ordered for others.
For me more player != more epic.
Why running 16 man if you get the same rewards in 8man but with lesser effort?

Dont get me wrong!
Your points are all valid.
But not everyone like everything that is on this list.
And some people are just simply cleared the content.

Leave normal mode as it is.
Make hardmode HARD and make nightmare mode a REAL challenge!

Give as a reason for our companions aside from "we need them for leveling"

Make the profession REALY usefull.

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xRydisx
03.14.2012 , 05:16 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Sparklehorse View Post
1: Run Flash Points.
2: Run Hard Mode Flash Points.
3: Do daily repeatable quests on Illum for gear upgrades or just for credits or just for (gasp) fun.
4: Do repeatable group quests on other planets, some of which have specific goals in mind, for instance, there is a planet where you can do daily group quests that reward orange level gear specifically for your companions.
5: Craft. Believe it or not, some people LOVe doing this and it is actually quite entertaining in this game.
6: PVP. It's pretty good here. Lots of reasons to do this, particularly with the coming ranking system. This will keep some people very busy for days on end.
7: Socialize. Yes, people do still like to just "hang out" and have fun shooting the breeze. Get in there and meet new people you anti-social gits!
8: Space Combat. Many people enjoy this very much.
9: Run normal mode, 8 man operations. Some good story here and very simple to organize and complete.
10: Run hard mode, 8 man operations. Again, easy to organize but a much steeper learning curve with gear rewards that reflect this.
11: Run 16 man normal operations. Harder to organize but much more epic in scale. If you have a big guild or a huge friends list or both, it's well worth the time to organize one of these and get it going.
12: Run 16 man operations on hard mode. Not for the feint of heart but just what the doctor ordered for others.

1/2 are the same thing. Your idea of fun is the repetitive quests that you will do..every day..to which you can earn rewards to make that same content..just that much easier? Can really only enjoy those 10 lines of dialogue so many times..by that I mean no more then once..

3) Again..more *repeatable* quests. It doesn't change. For credits? Nothing to buy at 50 that you dont guy with tokens. For fun..again..your idea of fun is the same exact thing over..and over..and over..and over..and over..sorry I think your the great minority there.

4) Look..more repeatable..repetitive boring content to do. You say group quests..but mention getting gear for Companion. PvP, FP, Raids, HM are all done without companions..unless your soloing the same content again..that is pointless. I havent used my companion since level 10..its completely unneeded and will be unused.

5)Craft.. crafting may be fun in other games..you go out..find our own materials..go here..craft what you want..you interact. You don't craft in this game..your companions do..the entire crafting system is based on letting your companions do this for you..there is nothing fun here..you just hit start..and watch the paint dry..also almost all crafted items are worthless at 50.

6) PvP..always fun..but can only stand so much of the same 3 warzones after a while. Little break is needed. World PvP is pointless and unused. But this option only really applies to PvPers..but yes..this one is ok.

7) Most people playing are on vent with their friends already..we are already doing this. Also BW made this game very non-social in many aspects. If I want to just talk..I can do this much easier with other chat programs and be much happier.

8) Look..more repetitive daily content.
9-12) do I really need to say it again??

So you thought of 12 things you say to do at 50? 9 out of those 12 is the same idea..lets do the repetitive content again and again..day after day..it is never going to change..but it will get slightly easier!. As we gear up..we can do this same exact stuff again..but quicker!

1 Involves no real interaction with you at all.
75% of what you suggested we do at 50 for fun, is repeating the same exact thing day in and day out..with no change what so ever. Another requires you to do nothing...sorry but I think your wrong good sir.

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Newsinz
03.14.2012 , 05:26 PM | #80
I have to ask this question... What do you expect Bioware to do?!

Seriously, there is a whole lot of complaining about the end game content, yet NONE of you have offered up any solutions as to what would make the game better for YOU. It's really easy for you to come in and dog on the game but I have seen multiple times where once someone challenges those whining by asking a simple question... they skirt the question and instantly begin attacking the person.

Im not championing the end game content that is currently in. I think they could evolve some new mechanics ( other then legacy ). I suggested apprenticing other players, basically allowing you to level down to their level and help new players with quests and flashpoints. This could be so much more evolved though with you being part of the Jedi order when you enter into the actual class quests the NPC's would recognize you and you would become involved in their story.

What have you offered lately? Anything? Other then... "This sucks there isnt any endgame" What is the difference between other MMO's and this one as far as their endgame content is concerned? Time? cause thats the only reason other MMO's have endgame content... they have been around longer. I just dont get why there is so much complaining about end game? ESPECIALLY when half of you havent put fourth any ideas as to improve the game or have been completely unreasonable with your requests or down right jerks to the dev's.

Everyone's a critic I guess. I just love how you all act as if it's so easy to add content... "Just make new content" As if you are all developers and know exactly how to make a game that EVERYONE is going to love. I mean at this rate you are all experts and really bioware should just hire you all to build and code all this end game content right!?


Edit: Just to add though.. Im not saying a disagree with some of the issues you are having... I think there really needs to be more then 3 warzones. I just don't know what else you could actually do to increase.

I thought Corellia would be a fun place to base a warzone... because of all the obstacles that are there. Having buildings that are wrecked and being able to go inside and fight in these ruined areas would be a lot of fun but what would be the objective? Re-skinning the same old flashpoints isn't going to make things better... They would have to be story driven. Maybe there is a datacron with important information that both the empire and republic feel would benefit either side? I dont know Im not awesome at story telling but there are other options I guess..

Basically all I am saying is adding to "I hate that there is only 3 warzones" and adding "and this is why...etc, etc etc" would be easier to read by the developers.