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Why this game needs more Looking For Group support

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Why this game needs more Looking For Group support

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KaiHeilos
01.15.2012 , 05:57 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Falkelord View Post
Say what you will about social order degrading or not, but the proof is every time you log onto WoW, there are hundreds just jumping around Org/SW waiting for queues to pop and nothing but trolls talking in /1.
We already have this on the Imperial Fleet because everyone is forced to go sit there if they want a decent chance of getting a FP group without already having a bunch of friends to group with.

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Falkelord
01.15.2012 , 06:02 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
We already have this on the Imperial Fleet because everyone is forced to go sit there if they want a decent chance of getting a FP group without already having a bunch of friends to group with.
The people spamming the IF are the same people who want a LFG tool because they're used to having groups come to them instead of actively seeking a group.

I haven't had any problems (and neither have several of the people I work with) getting groups even at 4 in the morning.

If you spam chat, people are going to ignore you. If you directly ask people who are located around the FP or even people on a planet with similar level ranges, you're going to find someone that wants to do it.

And if you're not, you need to keep trying.
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Philmors
01.15.2012 , 06:07 AM | #33
A server only LFG tool will work wonders for this game I think. WoW's cross server LFG tool pretty much killed WoW in my opinion.

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Leppychaun
01.15.2012 , 06:09 AM | #34
This was already addressed on a previous thread:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...55#edit1502055

It's in high priority and is in the design stage.
You want me to do what with who and when? Alright but who's paying me?

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KaiHeilos
01.15.2012 , 06:16 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Leppychaun View Post
This was already addressed on a previous thread:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...55#edit1502055

It's in high priority and is in the design stage.
Thanks for the link Sounds perfect

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eroscastaldi
01.15.2012 , 06:31 AM | #36
wee need a lfg, im not social, i dont like being in guild, i wont write on a game chat, i refuse to use the /who lfg tool because i am a troll and i espect to do anything in a game in a single click momentum. since i dont like questing either, and pvp is broken i see that lfg will save this game because ppl will unsubscrive really fast and go play pandaaaaaaaas


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Introvertus
01.15.2012 , 06:33 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Alcarinn View Post
Sorry i can get a group at 1 am at 8 am and at 5pm local time aka CET...

if you cannot find 1 person to play a flashpoint with you you simply suck at social part of the game.... all you need is to be 2 lvls above instance req aka quest needs to be grind and find another whose quest is also green then companions will do roughly 90% of player DPS...

problem SOLVED.

but ofcourse if you want to do orange quests you need to be 4 man party.

Game needs GLOBAL LFG channel ill agree up to that point.
Another fantastic solution.

So the intended way of playing this game is to overgear everything and play it with companions rather than people. That's REALLY doing well socially in this game.

- Aside - I'm seeing a pattern emerging here. It seems all of the people who hate the idea of anything that will make the grouping process even slightly easier back up their arguments with "on my server" or "I don't have too much trouble" or "Well, at level 50 you won't find it as hard".

Unfortunately, that doesnt qualify as good reasons not to have a LFG system.

At level 50, most people that me and my friend group with have never seen a flash point before or are scared even to group for one because of the abuse they sometimes get due to not knowing how to play their class. Why don't they know how to play their class? Because they never had the opportunity to practice in a group. First time tanks in Hard Mode have a tough time learning how to do it, especially when you consider that a lot of players are Star Wars fans, not MMO players. Many haven't played an MMO before and are unfamiliar with terms. But obviously I must be a WoW kid and an easymoder for suggesting something so outrageous.

Some back their arguments up with "its a waste of development time".

Sorry, but a couple of LFG channels would take minutes of development time to implement. Class flexibility could be done in similar time just by adding a "swap spec" button. An actual working tool could take a while - but it could be for a future patch. I can live with some minor bugs, for the sake of an easier time grouping up.

So yeah - I've not heard one single hater give a valid reason why a LFG tool should not be implemented.
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thecoffeecup
01.15.2012 , 06:34 AM | #38
It sounds good yes, but I do not agree with what that post said about it being easier to find a group while leveling up. Yes, it was until about level 30. Then it's almost impossible, at least on my server.

In prime time we have maybe 20 people on Taris. How many of those do you think are tanks and healers? Almost every group I've been in, I've put an large effort into creating it and patiently finding tanks and healers. Lately however, no amount of effort has been enough. In the past 3 days on one planet, I managed to join one group for 4 player heroics. Tanking failed horribly in that group, the healer got eaten a few times and left. No replacements to be found.

I find it insulting that someone says it's not too rough to find a group while leveling. Yes it is. It's insane. Let's not even mention flashpoints. I just gave up on those entirely.

Anyway thanks OP for some well thought out points. Ultimately I'm just glad they promised to do something about it.

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Introvertus
01.15.2012 , 06:49 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by thecoffeecup View Post
It sounds good yes, but I do not agree with what that post said about it being easier to find a group while leveling up. Yes, it was until about level 30. Then it's almost impossible, at least on my server.

In prime time we have maybe 20 people on Taris. How many of those do you think are tanks and healers? Almost every group I've been in, I've put an large effort into creating it and patiently finding tanks and healers. Lately however, no amount of effort has been enough. In the past 3 days on one planet, I managed to join one group for 4 player heroics. Tanking failed horribly in that group, the healer got eaten a few times and left. No replacements to be found.

I find it insulting that someone says it's not too rough to find a group while leveling. Yes it is. It's insane. Let's not even mention flashpoints. I just gave up on those entirely.

Anyway thanks OP for some well thought out points. Ultimately I'm just glad they promised to do something about it.
Thanks for the support - I feel you exactly and I had the same problem post level 30, and why my OP is directed towards people in that level range.

Even the people who claim it isnt hard to "find" a group havent said what happens when their group fails or it breaks up, or somebody disconnects. If your Flash point group loses their healer - you have to leave the instance to advertise for another.

But the people who hate the idea of LFG support will probably argue "my groups never fail, I'm so great, you're a noob, go back to wow" - which is apparently the best argument for not having a LFG tool.
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Alcarinn
01.15.2012 , 06:52 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by thecoffeecup View Post
It sounds good yes, but I do not agree with what that post said about it being easier to find a group while leveling up. Yes, it was until about level 30. Then it's almost impossible, at least on my server.

In prime time we have maybe 20 people on Taris. How many of those do you think are tanks and healers? Almost every group I've been in, I've put an large effort into creating it and patiently finding tanks and healers. Lately however, no amount of effort has been enough. In the past 3 days on one planet, I managed to join one group for 4 player heroics. Tanking failed horribly in that group, the healer got eaten a few times and left. No replacements to be found.

I find it insulting that someone says it's not too rough to find a group while leveling. Yes it is. It's insane. Let's not even mention flashpoints. I just gave up on those entirely.

Anyway thanks OP for some well thought out points. Ultimately I'm just glad they promised to do something about it.

Look let me explain how i played my way to lvl 49 (getting 50 today) and i finished EVERY SINGLE FLASHPOINT WHILE IT WAS ATLEAST GREEN LVL REQ.

Ok so i went to Tatooine i finished whole tatooine and as much heroic 2+ 4+ quests as possible then went do space mission and then in the evening around 6-10pm i went to republic fleet and asked for groups of my instances.... look i got groups in a matter of minutes.

For EVERY instance up to the red reaper which is still green in my current quest log and will do it in an hour or so.

I know it sucks for those outside prime time hours but they knew something like this would happen unless they were DUMB so i cannot help them


prime time from 5pm to 23:30 is the time when you will have BARELY any problems creating a group to more or less ANY FLASHPOINT excluding hardmodes at 50 those could still be some pain.

i did so since i started on 20th and until today and never waited longer than 5 min...

Global LFG is needed though. ill agree on that.

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Another fantastic solution.

So the intended way of playing this game is to overgear everything and play it with companions rather than people. That's REALLY doing well socially in this game.
You can also skip the flashpoint and do it on HARDMODE at lvl 50.... here you go now thats a fantastic solution.... or help lowbies who lvl i am sure you will get nice reputation in social part of the game for doing that.... oh wait i bet you dont like helping others. based on your communication.

All you see isME ME ME ME

I recgonize some problems with LFG but LFG finder = easy way to fix the game for noobs, idiots, anti social people, and people with entitlement issues and that 1% of people who really have problems.... i rather see 1% suffering and noobs than all suffering but noobs.