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Which one destroys gaming communities/games?

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DiLune
01.13.2012 , 04:42 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
Hey SWTOR players!!! Somewhere out there this guy with really antagonistic viewpoints about other players is out there playing in your community!! How do you feel about that?
You forgot the best part. He talked about things that destroy the community and then ends with an incredibly anti-social "Love me or hate me, I don't care." Is that someone you even want in your community? Or who even understands community?

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Glowrod
01.13.2012 , 04:43 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
That's all it is though, one example.

Did anything ever stop you from forming groups without the LFG tool?

Did anything ever stop you from talking to players on your own realm?

Or did you simply choose not to do these things and blame lack of community on LFG?
You are so far off in left field that I wonder if you are even reading what I say, or if you are just spouting off because I seem to be saying something that you may disagree with.

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zolthie
01.13.2012 , 04:44 PM | #53
LFG/LFR raid systems are fine, as long as they aren't cross-server.

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Dirtybomb
01.13.2012 , 04:44 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Pengatron View Post
LFG systems (like the one in "that other game") allow players to easily get into a group (and a dungeon / flashpoint) but greatly harms the sense of "community" between the players. It allows (promotes?) anti social, "me first, you never", selfish, greedy, elitist attitudes to flourish. Especially when the LFG system does cross server grouping.
I've already seen this attitude in the game on many occasions, which means that exists regardless of the existence of the LFG tool people are asking for. If the community was actually a good community, introduction of this tool wouldn't damage it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Pengatron View Post
Damage meters promote similar elitist attitudes because many will just focus on the meter readings instead of just working together to accomplish the goals. They will blame anyone who's meter readings are below theirs or below a certain number that the elitist ones have decided is the minimum required.
The type of people that start throwing out blame based off dmg meters were jerks before they logged on, and will be jerks after they log off. What you are suggesting is just "don't give people a reason to be themselves. I like my illusion of community."

Quote: Originally Posted by Pengatron View Post
If you want those features (LFG and meters) in a MMORG, go play "that other one". Keep them out of this one.
Again, it is the "I don't want it, so nobody else should have it either" argument. If there are tools or functions in the game you don't like, don't use them. If you are in a group that requires addons, quit and make your own group that doesn't require addons. If you don't like LFG, feel free to put groups together the old fashioned way.

If it turns out that nobody wants to be a part of your group without addons or you can't put a group together because nobody else wants to do it the old fashioned way, well then you were in the minority to begin with and you'll have to learn to deal.

People use screwdrivers to steal cars and commit other crimes all the time. The main reason they haven't outlawed screwdrivers is because it is stupid to deny society of a useful tool because a few people misuse it.

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HoneyBoy
01.13.2012 , 04:44 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Keihryon View Post
Anyone who advocates addons is. If you don't understand that, I feel for you.
Addons trivialize any content that wasn't designed with them in mind. Because it gives you information you otherwise wouldn't have.

Sorry I don't use aimbot or wall hacks in Battlefield.
And when I was forced to get addons in wow and spec my character to the cookie-cutter spec, i lost pretty much all of the little enjoyment I still had left for that game.

P.S. This is just an opinion, but i think that the current and continuing whittling away at wow's talent system is a direct effect from over-use of min-maxing. It is taking away variety..why even have talent trees in mmo's anymore? If someone is going to post a "perfect" spec and everyone must use it or be labeled "bad"?
Instead of "feeling" for me, you could have just explained the slippery slope logic behind your premise.

I don't think anyone ever forced you to get addons in WoW or spec your character to a cookie-cutter spec besides whatever arbitrary stigma you placed on yourself to play with the people YOU CHOSE to play with at the content difficulty YOU CHOSE to play at.

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HoneyBoy
01.13.2012 , 04:46 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
You are so far off in left field that I wonder if you are even reading what I say, or if you are just spouting off because I seem to be saying something that you may disagree with.
Personally I think it's bad form to quote somebody's questions to you and not answer them. That's just my opinion though. I won't force anyone to answer them!

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Reecelol
01.13.2012 , 04:48 PM | #57
i'm also a little confused as to what "community" means in this regard. I mean i know we have a billion guilds all over, so what exactly is the community if everyone is sharded off into different guilds?

what if there was 1 super guild that we all joined? that sounds more like a community to me than anything. maybe im wrong.
I play wow too. You jealous of my anime hair and ADD?

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HoneyBoy
01.13.2012 , 04:49 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Reecelol View Post
i'm also a little confused as to what "community" means in this regard. I mean i know we have a billion guilds all over, so what exactly is the community if everyone is sharded off into different guilds?

what if there was 1 super guild that we all joined? that sounds more like a community to me than anything. maybe im wrong.
Community is when everyone follows your own personal beliefs of how people should act if I'm reading into this correctly.

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Reecelol
01.13.2012 , 04:50 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
Community is when everyone follows your own personal beliefs of how people should act if I'm reading into this correctly.
well that doesnt seem right
I play wow too. You jealous of my anime hair and ADD?

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Glowrod
01.13.2012 , 04:50 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
Personally I think it's bad form to quote somebody's questions to you and not answer them. That's just my opinion though. I won't force anyone to answer them!
OK, let's spell it out then. I did not at any point say that I would not support a LFG a tool. In fact, I actually think that a LFG tool would be helpful in this game. What I AM saying is that I don't agree with the OP in that the LFG tool supports community.

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