People who ninja for their companions

That is awfully presumptuous on your part you know. The context of the thred was mid-level characters doing the world boss. I'm more then 95% sure that that guardian you are refering to would be immediately putting said won gear on his companion right after the boss fight and the companion would be playing right next to the guardian as he contiues to level up.


I think you were using level 50 cap character logic when you presented the above. yeah, level 50s don't use their companions much if they are mostly doing group content. But a leveling character will be using their companion almost all the time.

And your proof of your claimed stats is where exactly?
You keep claiming your view is the majority view. *shrug*
Your failure to at least acknowledge there is any validity to a belief counter to your own, and then on top of it can't take simple steps to remove any doubts or confusion about it, is why this type of issue in these games will forever be ongoing. And unfortunately it puts the devs into the role of being frustrated parents of kids who can't talk it out among themselves to reach an agreement.

And no, that agreement isn't going to happen here on these forums as is evident by the several threads about this topic already. It needs to happen when the group forms.

And there will be more like this as soon as dual spec is introduced to the game because if not you, then others similar to you that can't see the validity in another point of view are going to start insisting that MS>OS and everyone who doesn't think that is just a greedy jerk.

And I'm not arguing to roll need for companions. Nor am I arguing that rolling greed for companions should be the default. I'm arguing for the sanity that comes from having a short discussion at the beginning of a run that removes any doubt.

There are only 2 options outside of specifically asking people "is it cool if I roll for my companion?" then the question whether you will abide by the group's decision?

If you are of stance that gear for companions is of same priority as player characters then you should have no problem stating that when a run starts. If you do not, why not?

Edit: It is kind of like proving a guilt in the court of law. You need to prove intent and act. If you do not care and do it, okay. You will not care when people correct you and all is well. But if you are omitting information for favorable gain, you are scum bag.

I already said that its best to discuss the loot rules when forming a group, so i guess we're agreeing on that.

And no ofc i dont have proof, but while leveling up a lvl 50 and 3x lvl 30s i have never ever run into anyone on my server who rolled need for companions.
So unless im the luckiest person on the face of the earth i guess the majority of players agree that need rolls are there for chars and not companions.

Yeah and it starts off with "My ideology..."

That's yours man, don't push it off on me. Feel free to join a guild or form your own groups though. Join groups that adhere to your ideology but don't make it some universal principle we all have to live by because you think its a good idea.

Random groups should not have to appeal to and appease one mindset on loot distribution.

all you have to do is speak up. shocking i know. why do i have to read your mind?

whose says players come before companions? is this BW rule i never heard of before or is this you pushing your gameplay opinions onto others?

And your compainion can bbe in four man flashpoints, i have taken my along with me. if there is only a total of 3 players, the 4th slot is filled by a companion.

It's the "As long as i can roll need for my companions i will continue to do so" people and especially in FPs where imo its just unacceptable to roll need for companion gear without telling your group mates first who will just roll for their characters.

What do you think this ideology developed from? It has developed of the years of play with hundreds of people. Where do you think they learned this type of interaction? No ideology stems from nothing.

Also I am not the only with this ideology which is apparent from the thread.

Also interesting observation, I haven't had a group where anyone rolled need for gear that was not designed for their class. I wonder why people are behaving in such a way. Over the years of WoW and Rift, majority of people that I have encountered that believed in Main Spec > Off Spec and I have never seen anyone getting removed from the group for complaining that it should be Main Spec > Off Spec. Although I have encountered enough instances where people were removed for winning off spec gear.

Currently I have not been in a single group with anyone that just rolled need for their companion. I have no reason to assume that people that roll need for companion gear even exist. So I can assume that there are very few people that actual roll need for companions.