People who ninja for their companions

Could be something as simple as different specs. Could be you're just a better player than I am with that class. There are a lot of variables that effect performance. I was never "qqing" about Mako. I just stated that I believe that an upgrade to her gear enhances her healing output, which makes my job easier. Congratulations on finishing the BH story.

Sure I do. You have no idea what I do or don't do. You don't know me. I would only consider rolling on a significant upgrade. I've also advocated that these sort of discussions should be handled prior to starting a flashpoint.

People can agree to disagree. Or at least mature people can.


When dealing with a large amount of people, it is often difficult, if not impossible to come to a general consensus. As evidenced not only by this thread, but by the U.S. Senate. Taking a minute to discuss loot rules before rolling out, however, is something I practice personally. If you don't that's cool too. I'll be sure to ask when I join your group.

The opinion that the general unspoken rule should be need restricted to main toons only, is just that. Your understanding. Nothing more, nothing less. I can see your side of the argument, and I disagree. It doesn't make your point (or mine) less valid.

Everything isn't black and white people.

Been playing these games for years...

Not once have I come across someone who when they join the group say that they will roll need on anything they want to and if you don't like it too bad.

I guess it sounds good when you are posting anonymous on the forums.

By your ideology there is nothing in the game that can or cannot be done. The are absolutely no emotional reactions in the game and do we really exist or all of this just a dream?

It is not about rolling need to spite someone. All of us need gear for companions but someone of us consider the character that is specifically controlled by a player to be more important than a NPC companion. If I know that companion holds same value to the group as main avatar, then I will act accordingly. Personally I hate double standards. In this case double standard is created and people do not state their intent. What worse when people know that their actions will causes problem and they keep their intent hidden because that way they can get themselves geared and their companion while honest people have nothing.

Over the years I had countless instances where people would roll need on their main spec gear which I passed on because it was off-spec. Last boss drop my main spec gear, I lose it because they do not believe in main spec > off spec. This is referring to WoW. Well I am cool with no distinction but do those people that chose to omit their intent because they will no longer be protect by main>spec?

Basically are people only doing this for themselves or are people actually treating others like they would want to be treated?

Your right I don't say that. But since I don't do that it wouldn't make since. However if I don't need anything on my main and am runnin an instance for companion loot I would definitely announce at the start which of my companions I was working on at the moment. If anyone in group had a problem with my rolling on that companion they or I could leave group as the group sees fit.

But I guess you find it rather easy to accuse others of anything anonymously on the forums.

Exactly. When people omit details that they know will causes a problem, the run is basically like reality tv show. People talking behind their back and waiting on when they can pounce on an opportunity to screw everyone over.

If the only reason he'd do so is because the other person would do so, but they normally wouldn't bother, then yes, it is a case of out of spite.

And here you contradict yourself. You state agreeing beforehand meaning that there is something that multiple points of view exist for.

And then at the end you throw with those counter to your beliefs under the bus by saying they're the problem for not bringing it up.

The problem is people assuming ... period.
Not those assuming rolling need for companions is acceptable.
Not those assuming that rolling greed for companions is the only fair way.

EVERYONE that assumes and chooses not to communicate is the problem.

Many folks here have submitted multiple posts to this huge thread and I'd wager many of them, who seem to care so greatly about this topic, can't be bothered to ask a simple question when a PuG forms. And THAT is the problem.

If you never ask, you cannot accuse someone of omitting details.


"OMG you never said you'd roll on something like that!!!!"

"You never asked me, either."

My ideology states that I should only roll on gear that is for my characters, only. With this there is an advantage and disadvantage.

Advantage: If there are no other people in the group of same armor type, I get all the loot that drops.

Disadvantage: My companions do not get upgrades.

If someone in the group has opposite ideology, which is that needing is fine for companions then there is also an advantage and a disadvantage.

Advantage: You gear up your companions.

Disadvantage: Gear your main is harder.


If someone with ideology opposite of mine does not state that he/she will roll for their companions then they have advantage of my ideology and advantage of their ideology. At the same time I am still left with the both disadvantages.

So how it is fair?

All I want is equal treatment.

Okay. So since you have seen this thread and possible issues with this, you will always state that you will roll on companion gear?