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People who ninja for their companions

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People who ninja for their companions

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Marmerus
02.20.2012 , 08:48 AM | #701
Quote: Originally Posted by IIII-IIII-IIII View Post
If they add a Cross-Server LFG tool: I'll be needing on everything, regardless if my companion needs it.

If there is no community, there is no community.
I agree. Group content is going to ruin the community. Its for the best to build the community upon spam in general chat.
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johnhughthom
02.20.2012 , 08:54 AM | #702
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Eh, I play with random people; I very rarely run into anything like this. And when I do run into it, I don't get upset about it, because I don't have an assumption that I'm entitled to gear just because the numbers are favorable for the class I've picked.

Really, if you're getting upset by it, you need to deal with your entitlement issues.
Who has an entitlement issue, the person who will pass on items that another player can use and expect the same courtesy in return, or the person who wants everything?

Personally I agree with the argument that a player who needs on everything is entitled to do so as he pays his subscription, just as I believe other players are entitled to kick for it, or leave a group when people do it and blacklist them.

Anyone else getting tired of hearing claims of entitlement issues left, right and centre? It's the new internet buzz phrase.

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Holden_Dissent
02.20.2012 , 08:57 AM | #703
It's the generation that's coming up the pipe right now. Generation E(ntitlement)

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ferroz
02.20.2012 , 08:59 AM | #704
Quote: Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
Who has an entitlement issue, the person who will pass on items that another player can use and expect the same courtesy in return, or the person who wants everything?
Whichever one of them feels entitled to the gear because of some arbitrary condition (ie, it matches the stats that he likes, for example).

In your example, I'd say that the former clearly does, the latter may or may not (not enough info).

Edit: "the person who will pass on items that another player can use" isn't really accurate; the correct version would be something like "person X who will pass on items that another player can use in a way and/or for reasons that person X finds acceptable"

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Anyone else getting tired of hearing claims of entitlement issues left right and centre?
Well, that's a lot of what this comes down to, so it's going to get mentioned; the idea of "I'm entitled to X because it matches Y criteria, so it's wrong of you to roll against me for it" is what NBG is all about.

Personally, I don't care what other people roll on; it doesn't bother me if I don't win the stuff I want, since I don't think that I'm entitled to it until I've won the roll.

If more people could get rid of their entitlement issues, we'd stop seeing these threads so often.

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IIII-IIII-IIII
02.20.2012 , 09:01 AM | #705
Quote: Originally Posted by Marmerus View Post
I agree. Group content is going to ruin the community. Its for the best to build the community upon spam in general chat.
Notice I said "Cross-Server" or were you too eager to vomit that hyperbole?
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johnhughthom
02.20.2012 , 09:02 AM | #706
Quote: Originally Posted by Holden_Dissent View Post
It's the generation that's coming up the pipe right now. Generation E(ntitlement)
I'm obviously completely out of touch with the new generation, I would have thought it meant somebody feeling they were entitled to something just because "it's me", from my reading of most claims, it seems to mean "you have a different opinion from me, so now I'm going to use a clever sounding phrase to demean you".

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Akingza
02.20.2012 , 09:02 AM | #707
Quote: Originally Posted by Skaara View Post
It's not a ninja if he can use it including the companion. Companions are part of the game so you might want to just get used to that fact. I know I won't hesitate even for a second to need on a item for my companions.
Oh wow.. Thats not exactly being polite is it? If we really wanted to go down that path everyone could need on everything since we few companions.

Use your brains for christ sake, i guess im just lucky but i havent seen even 1 person rolling need on companion gear on purpose so far.. You know why? Because they dont want to be *******es like you.

Its no different than needing for an alt.

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ferroz
02.20.2012 , 09:07 AM | #708
Quote: Originally Posted by Akingza View Post
Oh wow.. Thats not exactly being polite is it?
Why isn't it polite? He has a use for the item; he's going to equip it in a way that benefits his character.

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If we really wanted to go down that path everyone could need on everything since we few companions.
/shrug

Not that it's true (since most, if not all, classes don't get all armor/stat types), but that doesn't actually bother me.

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Its no different than needing for an alt.
No, it's totally different. Rolling for an alt does not, in any way, benefit the character that wins the roll. Rolling for a companion does indeed benefit the character that wins the roll.

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Akingza
02.20.2012 , 09:17 AM | #709
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
Why isn't it polite? He has a use for the item; he's going to equip it in a way that benefits his character.

/shrug

Not that it's true (since most, if not all, classes don't get all armor/stat types), but that doesn't actually bother me.

No, it's totally different. Rolling for an alt does not, in any way, benefit the character that wins the roll. Rolling for a companion does indeed benefit the character that wins the roll.
How do you know if he is going to equip it? Or even use the companion he needs it for? There's no way to tell, some people just need because they can.

Besides, companions wont help you in any group content or battlegrounds = the major part of the game after levelling. So if you really cant gear your companion in any other way than needing stuff that other people have much more use for then its just sad.

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Entropicus
02.20.2012 , 09:19 AM | #710
Need for main greed for comp/off spec.
Greedy people will roll need for a comp they never even use otherwise.
Now if only Bioware would institute master looter it can be prevented. Hopefully BW will put that in before cross server.

I've just had to resort to blacklisting anyone that does it after dropping group, I'm not gonna heal some greedy lil punk and support his journey to deny others loot... amazingly it's always useless dime a dozen dps classes. You can and will be replaced, make sure to call out in general chat as well. Eventually no one will group with em.
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