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People who ninja for their companions

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Blacktongue
01.17.2012 , 03:32 PM | #611
Rolling need for a companion when someone else can use it for their toon = dick move.
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WutsInAName
01.17.2012 , 03:36 PM | #612
IMHO.

If you as a player is running an instance with me and do not specifiy UPFRONT the loot you wish for yourself then everything is open loot.

I run as Tank toons pretty much exclusivly and always always always put my own group together I almost never join a group. I just find a healer and go from there.

From my point of view as the Tank I am putting in the most effort and taking the biggest risk, not to mention all the work getting group put together, through instance and explaining the boss fights. (My biggest irk is some DPS trying to tell me how or what..... sure you wanna tank this, no? then shut up). In the end I feel I am more entitled to DPS drops for my companion then a DPS is for themselves. Healers I would usually just pass on and add to friends. (My entire friends list is only healers).

The lesson here is if you rolled DPS you are interchangable, replacable and a lot of the time my pet would do just as much DPS with 0 of the stupidity. I invited you to the group for the privledge of running the instance NOT the loot it contained. If loot was your priority then roll a bloody tank and make your own groups instead of trying to have your instances and loot handed to you by another player.

TL;DR

Due to the compaion system DPS is completly interchangable and can be subbed out for a pet. NO fights currently in game require top notch DPS to even beat the enrage timer. Hence at this point in SWTOR any DPS class is literally being carried by tanks healers and compaions and have NO ROOM TO GRIPE!

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BlueRahja
01.17.2012 , 03:39 PM | #613
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren View Post
How typical: you resort to mischaracterization because you've no other outlet left.

You've had to "defend" yourself? Curious... I haven't seen a cogent defense from you quite yet...
Still eloquent, but getting snarky.
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BlueRahja
01.17.2012 , 03:41 PM | #614
Quote: Originally Posted by WutsInAName View Post
IMHO.

If you as a player is running an instance with me and do not specifiy UPFRONT the loot you wish for yourself then everything is open loot.

I run as Tank toons pretty much exclusivly and always always always put my own group together I almost never join a group. I just find a healer and go from there.

From my point of view as the Tank I am putting in the most effort and taking the biggest risk, not to mention all the work getting group put together, through instance and explaining the boss fights. (My biggest irk is some DPS trying to tell me how or what..... sure you wanna tank this, no? then shut up). In the end I feel I am more entitled to DPS drops for my companion then a DPS is for themselves. Healers I would usually just pass on and add to friends. (My entire friends list is only healers).

The lesson here is if you rolled DPS you are interchangable, replacable and a lot of the time my pet would do just as much DPS with 0 of the stupidity. I invited you to the group for the privledge of running the instance NOT the loot it contained. If loot was your priority then roll a bloody tank and make your own groups instead of trying to have your instances and loot handed to you by another player.

TL;DR

Due to the compaion system DPS is completly interchangable and can be subbed out for a pet. NO fights currently in game require top notch DPS to even beat the enrage timer. Hence at this point in SWTOR any DPS class is literally being carried by tanks healers and compaions and have NO ROOM TO GRIPE!
Not...sure...if...troll? If not, you kinda sound like a monster. Im heals, I don't think i have ever though of DPS as some sort of second class citizen, and I don't think I have met a tank that was entitled to your opinion...and I healed Sicks. Like...THE Sicks.. Wow...just wow.
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WutsInAName
01.17.2012 , 03:43 PM | #615
Quote: Originally Posted by BlueRahja View Post
Not...sure...if...troll?
No sir you are the troll.



See you can tell a troll by someone who replies and simply adds nothing relevent to the topic of discussion, in this case that is you.

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Slteath
01.17.2012 , 03:45 PM | #616
Quote: Originally Posted by WutsInAName View Post
IMHO.

If you as a player is running an instance with me and do not specifiy UPFRONT the loot you wish for yourself then everything is open loot.

I run as Tank toons pretty much exclusivly and always always always put my own group together I almost never join a group. I just find a healer and go from there.

From my point of view as the Tank I am putting in the most effort and taking the biggest risk, not to mention all the work getting group put together, through instance and explaining the boss fights. (My biggest irk is some DPS trying to tell me how or what..... sure you wanna tank this, no? then shut up). In the end I feel I am more entitled to DPS drops for my companion then a DPS is for themselves. Healers I would usually just pass on and add to friends. (My entire friends list is only healers).

The lesson here is if you rolled DPS you are interchangable, replacable and a lot of the time my pet would do just as much DPS with 0 of the stupidity. I invited you to the group for the privledge of running the instance NOT the loot it contained. If loot was your priority then roll a bloody tank and make your own groups instead of trying to have your instances and loot handed to you by another player.

TL;DR

Due to the compaion system DPS is completly interchangable and can be subbed out for a pet. NO fights currently in game require top notch DPS to even beat the enrage timer. Hence at this point in SWTOR any DPS class is literally being carried by tanks healers and compaions and have NO ROOM TO GRIPE!
....if so, then don't find DPS to group, your problem solved...
btw... you just take this whole "selfishness" thing to a whole new level...
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Eldren
01.17.2012 , 03:47 PM | #617
Quote: Originally Posted by BlueRahja View Post
Still eloquent, but getting snarky.
I'm only human, Blue. This said, I tend to respond to like with like, and I didn't have the time for a more robust response. Lots of strangeness going on here locally and it's affecting a whole lot of stuff related to work, which means my time for lengthier responses is spotty.

As LogicalPremise surmised at the bottom of last page, I actually don't hit "Need" very often. I typically don't need to: I've endeavored to keep my two most-used companions in oranges, which means I often only have to update their mods. But on occasion I've found something that's a good upgrade when mods aren't available or are experiencing a GTN spike in price past what I'm willing to pay. On those occasions I've rolled "Need". In some of those cases I asked first, in others I didn't.

The thing to take away from this is simple in its elegance: up against the wall, our personal definitions will take precedence over murky "social definitions". We only sublimate our personal perspectives to social ones when a) we agree and b) they're fully codified and ratified.

It would take me a lot longer to crunch numbers like LogicalPremise has, though it could be done. However, doing percentage analyses is sort of off to one side of my central point, which is "You participated in downing the boss, you have a right to stake a claim to its loot." Anything else, from me or someone else, is nothing more than attempts to justify a position the game not only doesn't require justification for, but the players objectively don't require a justification for. The ones getting upset aren't largely doing so because they're such proponents of broad altruism that their very cores are wounded, they're getting upset because they'd be upset in that moment that someone got something they wanted for a reason they don't think should have been allowed. I might find it amusing, but I understand it.

I just don't agree with their attempted applications of its foundational premises.
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Jopster
01.17.2012 , 03:47 PM | #618
Quote: Originally Posted by Skaara View Post
It's not a ninja if he can use it including the companion. Companions are part of the game so you might want to just get used to that fact. I know I won't hesitate even for a second to need on a item for my companions.
Your companion is of much use during Flashpoints,PvP and Operations? Considering they took down a 4man worldboss his companion was not part of the group so he might as well have taken it for an alt or just to sell it.

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BlueRahja
01.17.2012 , 03:47 PM | #619
@ wutsinaname
Oh man you are serious. I thought people just pretended to be like you to get a rise out of people but your like...the real deal. Im so sorry for you. Every minute of every day, any moment of levity, joy, or even introspection must bring so much pain. You have my sympathies.
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Setanian
01.17.2012 , 03:51 PM | #620
Quote: Originally Posted by Blacktongue View Post
Rolling need for a companion when someone else can use it for their toon = dick move.
That's an opinion not fact.
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