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Melee DPS and You: What Each Melee DPS can do for your rated warzone group.

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Melee DPS and You: What Each Melee DPS can do for your rated warzone group.

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EasymodeX
01.13.2012 , 11:59 AM | #11
Typical of a useful thread to drop off the first page in less than 10 minutes.

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Lina_Inverse
01.13.2012 , 12:30 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
Since you highlighted the Rage spec's passive damage reduction for Marauders, it may be relevant to note here that the Jugg does NOT get those 2 talents that add 4% damage reduction. They only get the base ShiiCho dr.
Thanks for pointing this out. Also forgot to include their spammable aoe slow, probably the most useful part about them in a group setting.
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Lina_Inverse
01.13.2012 , 12:31 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by ururururu View Post
powertech/vanguard has the option to get a charge similar to the force mdps.
I didn't include this because it's deep in the tank tree, not any of the dps trees. So it's not really available to dps.
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Lina_Inverse
01.19.2012 , 06:03 PM | #14
Bump for constructive, useful information, although it might be controversial.
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aranha
01.19.2012 , 06:08 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Lina_Inverse View Post
Bump for constructive, useful information, although it might be controversial.
Defensive stats and the biggest issue with Melee in PVP becose they have no stats to reduce damage taken on gear!

Armor = Damage Reduction
Defense = Parry and Deflect
Shield = Chance of Absorbtion


This is how it works and why Tanking stats are not viable in PVP:

Melee & Ranged = Armor, Defense & Shield mitigated *white damage*
Energy & Kinetic = Armor mitigated *ignores shield and defense*
Tech & Force = Armor mitigated *ignores shield and defense*
Elemental & Internal = No mitigation
*ignores all defensive stats*

Criticals ignore shield and defense
Damage recieved from Guard is not mitigated

The only stat that reduces everything is expertise! Just to give Tank players a understanding of how mitigation works.

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Lina_Inverse
01.19.2012 , 06:18 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by aranha View Post
Defensive stats and the biggest issue with Melee in PVP becose they have no stats to reduce damage taken on gear!

Armor = Damage Reduction
Defense = Parry and Deflect
Shield = Chance of Absorbtion


This is how it works and why Tanking stats are not viable in PVP:

Melee & Ranged = Armor, Defense & Shield mitigated *white damage*
Energy & Kinetic = Armor mitigated *ignores shield and defense*
Tech & Force = Armor mitigated *ignores shield and defense*
Elemental & Internal = No mitigation
*ignores all defensive stats*

Criticals ignore shield and defense
Damage recieved from Guard is not mitigated

The only stat that reduces everything is expertise! Just to give Tank players a understanding of how mitigation works.


Sucks that this hits certain dps classes harder than others as well and they're not really designed to compensate for it at this time.
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aranha
01.19.2012 , 06:20 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Lina_Inverse View Post
Sucks that this hits certain classes harder than others and they're not really designed to compensate for it at this time.
This hits melees the hardest as Jugg, Marauder, Assassin and Sniper are the most basic damage heavy classes in the game while ranged are mostly Tech, Kinetic or Energy!

And no stat on defensive gear gives anything that reduces this!

BTW: Playing as a Assassin aswell..