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What's my bottleneck?


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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 01:14 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Qoojo View Post
I am going to go with the GPU on the work computer, and the CPU on the home computer. Both versions are 64 bit, so the one with 3gb memory is sufficient. Try swapping that video card from the home computer to the work computer for a test.
What would that show? I have no issues with the work computer.

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Jswizzle
01.12.2012 , 01:14 PM | #62
I agree with the more ram statements. Ram is incredibly important.

I find it somewhat funny that people with much much better computers than I having problems. Trust me I've wanted to break some of my computers, it is extremely frustrating. I feel your pain, but the simple fact is a lot of the people having problems are simply computer newbies.

Just listing off your computer specs means little, especially when your computer is good. Help us, help you. They never list the software they are running, what video drivers. They never list what diagnostic tools they use. One guy said he took it to his professional buddy and he said his comp was "fine". If you can't run this game, your comp isn't "fine" its got software issues out the ying yang.

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VicScotia
01.12.2012 , 01:16 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by VoXPCS View Post
If you can afford to get as far away from AMD as possible you'll see the different is night and day between quality chip.

I could get real technical as to why, but let's just say when you're the underdog, you copy and steal from those that are doing it right in an attempt to get ahead.

AMD is for grandma to check her email with.
I'm running an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition CPU on an AMD chipset based mobo from Asus...and its running TOR and any other game and app i throw at it fine.

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LionRampant
01.12.2012 , 01:17 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Chevex View Post
Again. Works great on another PC in the same area.

I am NOT saying BioWare couldn't make the area run better on poorer machines. That is NOT NOT NOT what I am implying in the slightest.

I'm saying that my home computer has a bottleneck that my work computer DOES NOT HAVE so now I'd like to identify it. All of you can take your QQing out of my thread please. Thank you.
I've already identified it for you - It's SWTOR. You fail to understand that you're looking for a hardware problem THAT DOES NOT EXIST.

I'll give you a little test. Take any other game to your work and fraps it at any settings, then fraps the same game at the same settings on your home PC.

I guarantee you 100% that your home PC will perform better. Do you understand it yet?

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chrissiurso
01.12.2012 , 01:18 PM | #65
I'm a total non tech person......so I can't understand a lot of the technobabble here. Just wondering if upgrading the RAM matters more than the video card? Thanks. :x

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LionRampant
01.12.2012 , 01:21 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by chrissiurso View Post
I'm a total non tech person......so I can't understand a lot of the technobabble here. Just wondering if upgrading the RAM matters more than the video card? Thanks. :x
Almost never unless you are seriously low on RAM in which case the game most likely wouldn't load.

4 GB RAM is more than enough for this game.

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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 01:21 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Jswizzle View Post
I agree with the more ram statements. Ram is incredibly important.

I find it somewhat funny that people with much much better computers than I having problems. Trust me I've wanted to break some of my computers, it is extremely frustrating. I feel your pain, but the simple fact is a lot of the people having problems are simply computer newbies.

Just listing off your computer specs means little, especially when your computer is good. Help us, help you. They never list the software they are running, what video drivers. They never list what diagnostic tools they use. One guy said he took it to his professional buddy and he said his comp was "fine". If you can't run this game, your comp isn't "fine" its got software issues out the ying yang.
I think it's a little of both. The game is far from perfect so I don't deny that optimizations need to happen on BW's end. I'm just sick of this debate. I have a working model that I'm trying to emulate. It's not like I can't get the black sun taxi area to run on any computer at all. I can get it to run on one box smooth as butter so to say that there's nothing I can do but point fingers at BioWare is silly at best.

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DeeckTator
01.12.2012 , 01:22 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Chevex View Post
Hey guys, I just had a quick question about my computer setup at home. I have had the opportunity to play SWTOR on my home and work computer. For some reason the game runs a lot faster on my work computer even though my home computer has a better graphics card. However, everything else is slightly worse than my work computer. I'm just curious what you guys think my bottleneck would be.

Here are my specs for both computers:

Work computer

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Intel Core i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz
8gb RAM

Home computer

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti
AMDŽ AM2+ Quad-Core
3gb RAM

My home computer really struggles when there are a lot of NPCs in the area. Particularly in the black sun taxi area on Coruscant. I chug so hard there when I'm at home because of all the NPCs fighting below the taxi platform, but that area runs fine at work.

Would my processor be the culprit or would it be my RAM? Or is there something else you think is holding me up?

Thanks for the help!
Single HDD and running shaite in background? If you have a single Sata2 disk in those puters, that will be serious bottlenecks. I noticed a huge overall performance when I went from a Single drive to Dual raid sets.
I had OS on 2x500GB in raid 0 (speed) and for install and store 4x1TB in raid-5 (speed + parity)
Now I have even added a SSD for OS and Cache, the 2x 500GB in raid-0 for installs and the raid 5 set for storage.

When you have a single disk, running OS, Cache, services, a game ++
For the HDD it's like you reading a book. But you have to read the first word from page 60, the 2nd word from page 24, the 3rd from page 251 and so on.
Would take you quite a while to finish the book.

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Jswizzle
01.12.2012 , 01:22 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by LionRampant View Post
I've already identified it for you - It's SWTOR. You fail to understand that you're looking for a hardware problem THAT DOES NOT EXIST.

I'll give you a little test. Take any other game to your work and fraps it at any settings, then fraps the same game at the same settings on your home PC.

I guarantee you 100% that your home PC will perform better. Do you understand it yet?
Did your mom just buy you a puter for Christmas? Sorry random line from 1995 hackers movie. Had to be done

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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 01:24 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by chrissiurso View Post
I'm a total non tech person......so I can't understand a lot of the technobabble here. Just wondering if upgrading the RAM matters more than the video card? Thanks. :x
No. Video card is first in priority. RAM is definitely a close second. I just didn't know if RAM would affect me more or less than my CPU.