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What's my bottleneck?


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Qoojo
01.12.2012 , 01:03 PM | #51
I am going to go with the GPU on the work computer, and the CPU on the home computer. Both versions are 64 bit, so the one with 3gb memory is sufficient. Try swapping that video card from the home computer to the work computer for a test.


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chrissiurso
01.12.2012 , 01:04 PM | #52
I have similar issues. I forgot my specs for home but there is a huge difference (like night and day) when playing the game on my home laptop compared to my work computer.
At home I lag really bad in the black sun area and the coruscant taxi area as well but when I tried the game at work, I have ZERO lag.

Home:
Dell Studio XPS 1640 Laptop (about 2 yrs old)
4 gigs of ram
64 bit, Windows XP
Some ATI Raedon Graphics card (mid range)

Work
Intel Xeon W3550 @ 3.07 GHz (year or so old)
6 gigs of ram
Windows 7 64 bit
Nvidia Quadro FX 3700 with 512 MB GDDR3

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mangarrage
01.12.2012 , 01:04 PM | #53
Take your work computer home and swap cards lol your computer would be great

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rhirne
01.12.2012 , 01:08 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Chevex View Post
Problem with the CPU is I'd have to upgrade my motherboard as well and both of those combined add up to almost $500! However, RAM would only cost me around $75 for a 4gb DDR 2 stick to fill my 4th RAM slot (giving me 7gb total).

So I guess my question is, should I drop the money for the 4gb DDR 2? Or should I suck it up and save my money for the next six months and get a new mobo, i7 cpu, and some DDR 3? Probably be like $500-$600 total.

Definately add more RAM. With x64 OS, get it up to at least 8 GB for better OS performance. SHould be fairly inexpensive ($50 - $60).


If the MOBO is indeed an AM2+ MOBO, a AM3 chip WILL work in the AM2 slot. You would want to make sure you have the latest BIOS, but it will work. The BIOS might show it as "Uknown" though. You will also lose some of the extra functionality of the AM3 chip (due to not having an actual AM3 MOBO), but it will still function. Just make sure you get one that has the same power rating as your current MOBO (don't get a 115w if your MOBO only supports upt to 95w processors)

That would at least get you more processing power and more RAM until you could get a new MOBO.
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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 01:09 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Rekreant View Post
You clearly lack a fundamental and logical understanding of computers and how they work. For instance I have an i7 oc'ed to 4ghz, 8 gb ram, two intel SSDs in a raid, and two nvidia 470s OC edition. When I am near the pvp vendors I drop to 20fps but my cards remain at 35% usage. That is an optimization problem and don't hold your breath for a fix. They will just take more out of the game like they did with hi res textures.
You clearly lack a fundamental and logical understanding of logic and how it works. Something works fine under one hardware configuration and doesn't work under another. I don't care if the best machine in existence can't run well near pvp vendors. That's not the point. My point is that an area that is a problem for me on one machine is NOT a problem on another.

Now if I went by a pvp vendor on one machine it ran great but then ran crappy on another machine, then I would blame the machine again. Yes the game needs optimized for performance. No that doesn't mean I can't at least improve my system up to the standards another system has set right in front of my eyes. So how about you climb down off your pedestal and share a little humility.

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Amonephis
01.12.2012 , 01:11 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by ishtori View Post
its the game, not your machine. don't waste your money upgrading for this game.

i've got a

i7 3970k
32gb ram
ati 6970
256 gb ssd agility 3.

i get stutter and 30 fps.
realy ?

ive got a i7 2600k, 16gb ram amd 6970 and standard hdd

i run the game at up to 110 fps on planets, only time id see 30 fps is when the fleet is packed with players.

Defrag and run cleaners on your computer , update drivers if that dosent work id check the power supply or other hardware to see if its faulty

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shinacarana
01.12.2012 , 01:11 PM | #57
your problem rests in your RAM. The system requirements for a 64-bit OS is 4 Gigs minimum. Having 3 gigs means your home computer doesn't have enough resources, and your OS is hogging it all.
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LionRampant
01.12.2012 , 01:11 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Chevex View Post
You clearly lack a fundamental and logical understand of logic and how it works. Something works fine under one hardware configuration and doesn't work under another. I don't care if the best machine in existence can't run well near pvp vendors. That's not the point. My point is that an area that is a problem for me on one machine is NOT a problem on another.

Now if I went by a pvp vendor on one machine it ran great but then ran crappy on another machine, then I would blame the machine again. Yes the game needs optimized for performance. No that doesn't mean I can't at least improve my system up to the standards another system has set right in front of my eyes. So how about you climb down off your pedestal and share a little humility.
What happens when the machine it runs poorly on is faster than the machine it runs ok on?

Logic fail or game problem?

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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 01:12 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by LionRampant View Post
Your bottleneck is SWTOR.

I'm glad somebody else is seeing the Black Sun problem - my Pc is pretty much the same as yours (I have a 6850 graphics card though) and I struggle to get more than 15fps in the Black Sun area.

I just fresh installed Windows 7 Pro to see if that helps but I'm not holding my breath. This lag happens to people with intel cpu's as well btw so don't assume that will fix anything.
Again. Works great on another PC in the same area.

I am NOT saying BioWare couldn't make the area run better on poorer machines. That is NOT NOT NOT what I am implying in the slightest.

I'm saying that my home computer has a bottleneck that my work computer DOES NOT HAVE so now I'd like to identify it. All of you can take your QQing out of my thread please. Thank you.

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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 01:13 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by LionRampant View Post
What happens when the machine it runs poorly on is faster than the machine it runs ok on?

Logic fail or game problem?
I give up. I got what I needed from this thread anyway. I will report back after I make some RAM upgrades and let you all know how it went.

Thank you to those of you that decided to be constructive.