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[Official High Resolution Textures Post] Can we get a clarification on this?

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[Official High Resolution Textures Post] Can we get a clarification on this?

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Unruhe
01.12.2012 , 05:53 PM | #501
Quote: Originally Posted by ObiWonCanolli View Post
Oh you meant the textures that are BETTER than WoW?

What does that tell you that people buy? I'm not paying for textures, I'm paying to play a game and pretty good looking one IMHO on the whole.
If you're going to say that TOR's textures are better than WoW, you should probably have proof.

For example, I have proof that you are wrong.

Anyone can hate on WoW's art style, I'm not a huge fan of it myself. Technically, visually, and mechanically, it is superior to TOR. Go ahead and kid yourself that it's not, though.

TOR has story and RP. That part is good. The rest of the game is an inferior WoW.

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gabrielhead
01.12.2012 , 05:54 PM | #502
Quote: Originally Posted by Deathsidehell View Post
I found some stuff online and would like to share with you guys:


While we wait for the graphical enhancements coming in patch 1.2, here are some great tricks you can use to make your game look better! Of course, you will have to tweak these settings yourself, based on your hardware. Some of these can be tweaked to make your performance better on a lower spec system. You would just tweak the numbers the other direction.

First, let's talk negative LOD bias. If you don't know what it is, basically it governs the general sharpness of the textures. If you use an LOD bias of -3.0, the picture will be sharp, whereas 3.0 would be more blurry.

So we want to try and add -3.0 LOD bias. How do you go about doing this? If you have an ATI card, get a tweak program like RivaTuner or ATI Tray Tools. Nvidia, you'll want something similar (usually a tweak program used to overclock and unlock your card's potential). In this program, you'll want to look in your 3D or Direct 3D settings for the LOD bias slider. Set it to -3.0. Save and exit. Try it out in the game! You can adjust it up or down to your liking! Here are some comparison shots:

NORMAL

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...TOR_No_LOD.jpg

FORCED LOD

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Forced_LOD.jpg

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, let's talk .ini file tweaks!

For this to work, you have to unhide your C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\SWTOR folder! Then you'll be able to access the client_settings.ini file. Double click to open in notepad.

When finished, save the file, then right click it, and set to read-only, as the game will overwrite it when you restart!

If a line is not added to your .ini, you can add it yourself!

Also, texture quality set at 0 is the setting you want! Trust me!

PLEASE BUMP AND STICKY!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Renderer]
Height = 1080
Width = 1920
WindowX = 0
WindowY = 0
DynamicLightsLimit = 8
MeshLODQuality = 1
TextureAnisotropy = 16
FarClipScale = 3.9371195
PlantDensity = 150
D3DFullScreen = true
NativeHeight = 1080
NativeWidth = 1920
doShadows = true
doBlobShadows = true
UseMinSpecShaders = false
EnableBloom = true
VerticalSyncState = true
FullScreen = true
TextureQuality = 0
AllowDepthOfField = true
GammaRamp = 1.037854
SpeedTreeDistanceScale = 1.25
enableadvenvirolighting = true
DebugAdvEnviroLighting = true

[Game]
MoviesFolder = ....\Movies
SwtorRegKey = SOFTWARE\BioWare\Star Wars - The Old Republic

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RESULTS:

Cutscene:

http://i.imgur.com/oQtAN.jpg

World (with plan density 100 instead of 150):

http://i.imgur.com/bpmSJ.jpg



original post:http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/95119...ublic/61628417
If your comp does not meet the score set by the remote rendor dill... it does exactly what the dill says... The word used is forced... as in ignore the ini and force the min quality

Forced Min Spec because of low video card memory restriction.
Forced Min Spec because of texture dimension power of two restriction.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseoflessthen16maxanisotropy.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseoflessthen2GigaBytesofsystemme mory.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseoflessthen1024vertexshaderinst ructionssupport.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseoflessthen1024pixelshaderinstr uctionssupport.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseoflessthen4simultaneousrendert argetsupport.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseofnocopysystemmemtovidsupport.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseofnocopyvidmemtosystemcopysupp ort.
ForcedMinSpecbecauseofnodynamictexturesupport.

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Sunni
01.12.2012 , 05:55 PM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkulin View Post
Now maybe people will understand. When someone is talking about textures they mean this.

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gabrielhead
01.12.2012 , 05:55 PM | #504
Quote: Originally Posted by BobTheTeepo View Post
I just have to say, it's INTERESTING, but it's nothing concrete. Notice how his first paragraph hints at what he is saying is the TRUTH and is a FACT, but notice how he carefully words the rest of his post?

His statement would be summarized like this then:

If what I'm saying is correct, then this could be what's going on.

So basically, we're left with something interesting, stated by a clearly intelligent person, but it's nothing more than that. It's purely speculation, and I wouldn't take it as anything more.
Open the DLL and read... It forces Min quality if you score poorly.

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Eisenhorne
01.12.2012 , 05:56 PM | #505
MIght have been posted before, but this is an intersting read...

http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/he...eets-starwars/

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carnac_fett
01.12.2012 , 05:57 PM | #506
Quote: Originally Posted by Eisenhorne View Post
MIght have been posted before, but this is an intersting read...

http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/he...eets-starwars/
My favorite line from that article...

We were concerned over their making major changes to our engine, but we loved the size of the check that came with the deal.
Safeguard - Jedi Guardian - Harbinger (US)

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Eisenhorne
01.12.2012 , 05:59 PM | #507
Oddly I was going to copy and paste with that line and a couple of others highlighted.

I laughed.

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Unruhe
01.12.2012 , 05:59 PM | #508
Quote: Originally Posted by Harower View Post
http://kotaku.com/5875469/why-most-o...ared-at-launch

http://www.gamezone.com/news/swtor-s...tting-is-a-lie

http://mm****.com/2012/01/11/star-wa...-textures-011/

http://www.***********/2012/01/11/sw...-res-textures/

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01...-texture-conc/




This was from a 10 second search on google ignoring all the websites with the words starwars somewhere in the name. Also ignoring all forum boards talking about it. There are loads more reporting this issue.


And people said it was just rededit
I wonder if the forum mods will include these links in the press stickies at the top of the boards.

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MoonsLightV
01.12.2012 , 06:01 PM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by Deathsidehell View Post
I found some stuff online and would like to share with you guys:


While we wait for the graphical enhancements coming in patch 1.2, here are some great tricks you can use to make your game look better! Of course, you will have to tweak these settings yourself, based on your hardware. Some of these can be tweaked to make your performance better on a lower spec system. You would just tweak the numbers the other direction.

First, let's talk negative LOD bias. If you don't know what it is, basically it governs the general sharpness of the textures. If you use an LOD bias of -3.0, the picture will be sharp, whereas 3.0 would be more blurry.

So we want to try and add -3.0 LOD bias. How do you go about doing this? If you have an ATI card, get a tweak program like RivaTuner or ATI Tray Tools. Nvidia, you'll want something similar (usually a tweak program used to overclock and unlock your card's potential). In this program, you'll want to look in your 3D or Direct 3D settings for the LOD bias slider. Set it to -3.0. Save and exit. Try it out in the game! You can adjust it up or down to your liking! Here are some comparison shots:

NORMAL

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...TOR_No_LOD.jpg

FORCED LOD

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Forced_LOD.jpg

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now, let's talk .ini file tweaks!

For this to work, you have to unhide your C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local\SWTOR folder! Then you'll be able to access the client_settings.ini file. Double click to open in notepad.

When finished, save the file, then right click it, and set to read-only, as the game will overwrite it when you restart!

If a line is not added to your .ini, you can add it yourself!

Also, texture quality set at 0 is the setting you want! Trust me!

PLEASE BUMP AND STICKY!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Renderer]
Height = 1080
Width = 1920
WindowX = 0
WindowY = 0
DynamicLightsLimit = 8
MeshLODQuality = 1
TextureAnisotropy = 16
FarClipScale = 3.9371195
PlantDensity = 150
D3DFullScreen = true
NativeHeight = 1080
NativeWidth = 1920
doShadows = true
doBlobShadows = true
UseMinSpecShaders = false
EnableBloom = true
VerticalSyncState = true
FullScreen = true
TextureQuality = 0
AllowDepthOfField = true
GammaRamp = 1.037854
SpeedTreeDistanceScale = 1.25
enableadvenvirolighting = true
DebugAdvEnviroLighting = true

[Game]
MoviesFolder = ....\Movies
SwtorRegKey = SOFTWARE\BioWare\Star Wars - The Old Republic

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RESULTS:

Cutscene:

http://i.imgur.com/oQtAN.jpg

World (with plan density 100 instead of 150):

http://i.imgur.com/bpmSJ.jpg



original post:http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/95119...ublic/61628417
Good post, however after looking at the world image and seeing the lego like shadows off to the right, still reminds me of how sloppy the graphics still are in this game even with all these tweaks. They are so bad i keep them turned off just so i don't have to look at em.

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Clexzor
01.12.2012 , 06:04 PM | #510
Its almost brutal to look at my guy in all champion gear....:{ I just sit at my holocom hitting it over and over waiting for a fix while queing for WZ;s which btw are getting rather stale quickly.
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