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[Official High Resolution Textures Post] Can we get a clarification on this?

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[Official High Resolution Textures Post] Can we get a clarification on this?

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Tenceriker
01.13.2012 , 07:41 PM | #1121
Quote: Originally Posted by Harower View Post
Scene: Wealthy business man excitedly reading magazine, he is in the market for a new car and has the money to spend. He just upgraded his garage to house his new purchase. Suddenly! his eye falls upon what he wants and he eagerly calls the dealership.


Customer: Hi, I saw this bugatti veyron in a magazine and I was told I could buy it here.
Salesman: Sure have a look at this, would you like a test drive?
Customer: Oh sure wow, just look at this car this is going to be awesome!

Narrator: Exciting test drive occurs.

Customer: Wow that was *********** amazing, I want to buy this now I can't wait im going to tell everyone about it.
Salesman: We will send the car in a very nice looking box to you, is that agreeable?
Customer: Sure sounds great, can't wait.


Narrator: Half a year later, customer receives box and opens it.


Customer: What the hell, why did I recieve a Toyota! This must be a mistake, let me talk to the salesman to sort this mess out.

Narrator: Angry phone call ensues

Customer: Hey whats going on here mr salesman, I am very upset with what I got.
Salesman: During the testdrive we deemed that you couldn't handle the car thus we changed it.
Customer: What do you mean it handled fine, I loved it and thats why I bought it.
Salesman: We never intended for you to have access to the car in the first place to enjoy in the way you did.
Customer: Wait what?
Salesman: We were only ever selling the toyota.
Customer: But wait.. the magazine, the test drive!.... what I payed for!
Salesman: We understand how you feel, in about 6 months we will come up with a solution to make your toyota a better car.
Customer: This is not acceptable I....

Narrator: Salesman hangs up, tune in next week for more tales of interrest.


Fade out, end scene.

This is exactly the analogy this thread and issue needed. Nice job.
Relabeling future patches as Expansions, just like EA Louse said a year ago. Who got the last laugh?

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Aisar
01.13.2012 , 07:42 PM | #1122
Quote: Originally Posted by Harower View Post
Scene: Wealthy business man excitedly reading magazine, he is in the market for a new car and has the money to spend. He just upgraded his garage to house his new purchase. Suddenly! his eye falls upon what he wants and he eagerly calls the dealership.


Customer: Hi, I saw this bugatti veyron in a magazine and I was told I could buy it here.
Salesman: Sure have a look at this, would you like a test drive?
Customer: Oh sure wow, just look at this car this is going to be awesome!

Narrator: Exciting test drive occurs.

Customer: Wow that was *********** amazing, I want to buy this now I can't wait im going to tell everyone about it.
Salesman: We will send the car in a very nice looking box to you, is that agreeable?
Customer: Sure sounds great, can't wait.


Narrator: Half a year later, customer receives box and opens it.


Customer: What the hell, why did I recieve a Toyota! This must be a mistake, let me talk to the salesman to sort this mess out.

Narrator: Angry phone call ensues

Customer: Hey whats going on here mr salesman, I am very upset with what I got.
Salesman: During the testdrive we deemed that you couldn't handle the car thus we changed it.
Customer: What do you mean it handled fine, I loved it and thats why I bought it.
Salesman: We never intended for you to have access to the car in the first place to enjoy in the way you did.
Customer: Wait what?
Salesman: We were only ever selling the toyota.
Customer: But wait.. the magazine, the test drive!.... what I payed for!
Salesman: We understand how you feel, in about 6 months we will come up with a solution to make your toyota a better car.
Customer: This is not acceptable I....

Narrator: Salesman hangs up, tune in next week for more tales of interrest.


Fade out, end scene.
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Jigss
01.13.2012 , 07:45 PM | #1123
We are sorry we picked a crappy engine and do not know how to code. We still call ourselves a game studio though. Even though much smaller studios with limited budgets run circles around us we really do try.

We understand the game is not only riddled with bugs many of these directly effect game play and progression. Bear with us while we try to get our act together.
You have to understand our standards are much lower and we feel ok pushing out broken products that we try to then to fix over a extensive period while happily taking more of you money.


Instead we get this PR nonsense on the front page.

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Mormack
01.13.2012 , 07:47 PM | #1124
In all reality what needs to happen is they need to be up front with us.

The MMO playerbase is famous/infamous for taking game systems and breaking them/testing them/discovering them, etc. Whether this is in gameplay (Ensidia World First H-LK and LFR Exploits in WoW I'm looking at you as two that come to mind immediately as does the guy on Zul'Jin a long time ago who figured out ilvl.) It is insane for them to think that we 1) Wouldn't notice and 2) wouldn't take offense to it.

They are talking about a playerbase who some can see a .01% of their DPS increase when they switch out gear and will wear that gear no matter what because it increases their DPS. They will notice something as big as this.

If they are up front with us and say that this was an oversight of the engine and its just not possible to produce these until the engine has been further optimized AND stop tauting high rez textures and soft shadows as features. sure that may cause another poostorm, but there is something to be said for honesty. I for one, would be willing to stick around for longer (I'm going to stick around for a while because my friends are enjoying the game and so am I...The textures just crawls all over me.) but when I feel like I'm being lied to, I lose faith in a developer that I have loved since Bauldur's Gate. And yes, I even liked DA2....It was meant for Consoles and I played in on one. The Combat was fun there, but I digress

We need Engine Optimizations in the pipeline and we need to be kept in the know on it. I suggest a weekly community podcast of some sort where the Community management team can keep us updated as to whats going on in Development.

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mArchangel
01.13.2012 , 07:59 PM | #1125
Quote: Originally Posted by Paragons View Post
Its funny you stand there for a sec and 50-60% of someones armor starts popping; looks pretty good but then you notice the other half looks like your playing the game in low; especially on sith an BH armors I notice this. It just looks like crap....Like nothings loading. I knew I wasn't crazy lol. (Then again could just be a fleet thing) The game does look worse then it did. And now I see it everywhere I look after reading this. I might be jumping on the witch hunt train now; but I swear it looked better before last patch. Tons of popping now...

Hey BioWare Team, did you read this??

This is the result of what you've done. Now we are not even trusting the slightest bit anymore and start REALLY looking for every little crack in the wall. That is the result of ignoring high fidelity needs of PC customers. It takes a lot out of the magic does it not? And whilst at it: What's up with the bleeding green lighsources creating these weird tent like green/yellow planes and stuff? Really bad in Anchorhead as example! And what's up with me having to always tab in and out of the client after travelling on the galaxy map to regain full FPS?
And what's up with sound sources popping in and out as if the client only allows like 16 voices????? Everybody talks about gfx. But this needs tune up too. BAAAAAAAADLY actually. I say it again: We do not require new content-we need what we have, fixed and working and then move on. I say this since I believe you will need all resources available to make these fixes happen in a VERY SHORT TIME please.
Plus keep in mind, that no matter what content you may be working on it will only be good if there is enough players to play the game and team up with and I have the feeling we/you are loosing customers over these issues on a daily basis.

I am not to speculate what may be the reason for this or that and quite frankly it's not my job nor my hobby to know-my hobby is SWTOR deluxe-what I have is SWTOR 2nd hand-well that's how it feels to me at times.
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Angelshooter
01.13.2012 , 08:11 PM | #1126
I just want my bounty hunter to look like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Eu0t...eature=related

That is clearly all game-play and not "cinematic"

Instead my armor is a blurry mess

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Rivanwarder
01.13.2012 , 08:14 PM | #1127
Cancelled over this issue too.

I have had many problems in the game but wanted to tough them out, however BW's response to this glaring omission has forced me to act. Cant wait for Diablo 3 now.

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United_Strafes
01.13.2012 , 08:20 PM | #1128
Quote: Originally Posted by Harower View Post
Scene: Wealthy business man excitedly reading magazine, he is in the market for a new car and has the money to spend. He just upgraded his garage to house his new purchase. Suddenly! his eye falls upon what he wants and he eagerly calls the dealership.


Customer: Hi, I saw this bugatti veyron in a magazine and I was told I could buy it here.
Salesman: Sure have a look at this, would you like a test drive?
Customer: Oh sure wow, just look at this car this is going to be awesome!

Narrator: Exciting test drive occurs.

Customer: Wow that was *********** amazing, I want to buy this now I can't wait im going to tell everyone about it.
Salesman: We will send the car in a very nice looking box to you, is that agreeable?
Customer: Sure sounds great, can't wait.


Narrator: Half a year later, customer receives box and opens it.


Customer: What the hell, why did I recieve a Toyota! This must be a mistake, let me talk to the salesman to sort this mess out.

Narrator: Angry phone call ensues

Customer: Hey whats going on here mr salesman, I am very upset with what I got.
Salesman: During the testdrive we deemed that you couldn't handle the car thus we changed it.
Customer: What do you mean it handled fine, I loved it and thats why I bought it.
Salesman: We never intended for you to have access to the car in the first place to enjoy in the way you did.
Customer: Wait what?
Salesman: We were only ever selling the toyota.
Customer: But wait.. the magazine, the test drive!.... what I payed for!
Salesman: We understand how you feel, in about 6 months we will come up with a solution to make your toyota a better car.
Customer: This is not acceptable I....

Narrator: Salesman hangs up, tune in next week for more tales of interrest.


Fade out, end scene.
I've got a much simpiler one:

You watch Star Wars on Blu-Ray at your brothers house, great movie, and most of all it looks outstanding!

You order Star Wars Blu Ray from Amazon, a few days later recieve Star Wars on VHS.

You call Amazon and they tell you it doesn't matter because it's the same exact movie and that your VHS player uses less power than your Blu-Ray player so they thought this was best for you.

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Khechari
01.13.2012 , 08:24 PM | #1129
Quote: Originally Posted by United_Strafes View Post
I've got a much simpiler one:

You watch Star Wars on Blu-Ray at your brothers house, great movie, and most of all it looks outstanding!

You order Star Wars Blu Ray from Amazon, a few days later recieve Star Wars on VHS.

You call Amazon and they tell you it doesn't matter because it's the same exact movie and that your VHS player uses less power than your Blu-Ray player so they thought this was best for you.
I like that one. It's the best comparison anyone has made so far.
Bioware I request these following graphics modes:
1) Low
2) Medium
3) Advertisement Mode

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Proto
01.13.2012 , 08:25 PM | #1130
Quote: Originally Posted by United_Strafes View Post
I've got a much simpiler one:

You watch Star Wars on Blu-Ray at your brothers house, great movie, and most of all it looks outstanding!

You order Star Wars Blu Ray from Amazon, a few days later recieve Star Wars on VHS.

You call Amazon and they tell you it doesn't matter because it's the same exact movie and that your VHS player uses less power than your Blu-Ray player so they thought this was best for you.
Yep, this one works just as well. What they basically did is unacceptable and the closest thing to theft I can think of for those that bought the game and are very aware of graphics and their computer's capabilities. Its really infuriating.