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LFG Tool is NOT Needed


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Teladis
01.11.2012 , 09:04 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
Here is why....

I played WoW for 7 years. Groups used to be great. Then an LFG tool was introduced. After that it was hard to keep a group together because the first time everyone died people would drop group for a new one. After the LFG tool was introduced people in groups also turned into asses about jsut about everything that didn't go their way.

So in regards to an LFG tool, I say hell no.

EDIT: I NEVER have a hard time find a group, and I'm not in a guild.

Your points are not valid.


What happens with you is not what happens with everyone else. To say something is needed because you are lucky enough to get groups when you want is trolling.



People are jerks even without the tools.
People still Ninja even without them.



The queue looking for dungeon system does more for the game over hurting it.


When I log on to play, I want to play. I don't want to log on and have a chance to play the content I want to play. If I want to do a flash point, and only have a few hours to play today. The queue system does all the things that saves me time.

Also, while people say "It hurts the community" that is false also, What hurts the community more is a bunch of people spamming "Lfg so and so" Or sending tells to everyone. The answer to them same community people is "Make friends and join guilds" My answer to that is, If I'm force to make friends just to see content in todays MMO, this game won't last on the market.


MMO has changed a lot from the old days. It's not just for social thing, Playing online with others is fun, making friends is cool, but at the same time some people don't either have the time, or not really that social to start with, but enjoys having a world where he can make money and do things with people.



I use to make friends for loot in the older mmos. I grew up...Now, I only make friends with people who I like. Not, because they are good at the game. It's time for bioware to grow up.

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Bigguyonarock
01.11.2012 , 09:10 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by NoiseTankXIII View Post
Or sort by people actually flagging themselves in the LFG.
Right, Filter to LFG. Click on Rank to position to filter highest level to the top. Or if your sub-50 "LFG [your level]".

Quote: Originally Posted by NoiseTankXIII View Post
Sometimes I'm open to Tank/Heal/DPS more than one Flashpoint.
At most, 5 more characters. Not that big of a deal.

Quote: Originally Posted by NoiseTankXIII View Post
Ooh goodie, you use it. Shame you are probably not looking for my group and you are like the only other person using it.
Yea... so stop acting like the tool doesn't exist and start encouraging people to use it.



Quote: Originally Posted by NoiseTankXIII View Post
Yes. User-error, not the counter-intuitive design. If something as integral as a LFG system on an MMO is not being utilized by a large portion of the player base that is a Developer problem, not a user one, because the Users almost always go for the greater convenience for them. Clearly this is not convenient.
I'd like to know exactly what is inconvenient about checking a box and setting a comment. I'm not going to argue that developers can't improve upon it. Because they can. They should.

If anything, the tool should be a seperate menu with a seperate UI button. But, it's not. That doesn't mean the tool magically doesn't exist. We're not 5 month year olds. Just because something is out of sight doesn't mean it suddenly vanished from the universe.
This thread should be titled, "Irrational logic and how to form an opinion around it."

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Teladis
01.11.2012 , 09:12 PM | #53
Oh and the tool we have right now is retarded, Just add a stupid queue system. Yes even make it cross server, because at the rate this game is going, you need to plan for the future on them low pop servers and one sided factions.

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Bigguyonarock
01.11.2012 , 09:13 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Moricthian View Post
So the solution to the problem of grouping is to "encourage people to use the LFG tool" while I'm standing around the fleet spamming general? I'd rather not sit around the fleet while everyone continues to ignore the lfg tool. It's going to take a long time for people to figure out and I'd rather quest or do PvP. We need a Flashpoint finder
So would I. Instead of waiting for the developers to slap new players in the face and scream at them in a bold tutorial on the loading screen "THERE IS AN LFG TOOL IN /WHO" let's instead tell people, "Hey, check out the LFG function in /who."

I see 4 different threads every day for people clamoring for a LFG function in the game, and apparently none of them know one already exists. That's a problem.

And now it seems, when you try to make people aware of it, their argument is. "That tool sucks because nobody uses it, so I don't use it."

Huh?
This thread should be titled, "Irrational logic and how to form an opinion around it."

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NoiseTankXIII
01.11.2012 , 09:15 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Bigguyonarock View Post
I'd like to know exactly what is inconvenient about checking a box and setting a comment.
Maybe you should start doing a survey. Lot's of people aren't doing it. I'm pretty sure you are aware of that. Why aren't they doing it? Because nobody looks at it. I would be honestly curious to the reaction you would get if you were to say in the middle of the /1 LFG/M spam 'Hey guys check out the LFG tool!'.

I'm willing to bet 5000 credits you will get A) mocked, B)vague interest 'oh hey he's right. thats cute... LFM-' or C) silence.

Quote: Originally Posted by Bigguyonarock View Post
If anything, the tool should be a seperate menu with a seperate UI button. But, it's not. That doesn't mean the tool magically doesn't exist. We're not 5 month year olds. Just because something is out of sight doesn't mean it suddenly vanished from the universe.
The tool is bad. It is bad because it isn't visible, requires the user to fiddle around windows and tabs and input stuff. I know that's an affront to most tech-savvy technological savants around here including me but that's the way the Republic ship flags.

Hilariously enough, the LFG tool is even less social than LFG/M spam.

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Teladis
01.11.2012 , 09:15 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Bigguyonarock View Post
So would I. Instead of waiting for the developers to slap new players in the face and scream at them in a bold tutorial on the loading screen "THERE IS AN LFG TOOL IN /WHO" let's instead tell people, "Hey, check out the LFG function in /who."

I see 4 different threads every day for people clamoring for a LFG function in the game, and apparently none of them know one already exists. That's a problem.


Oh you mean that same tool, that has not worked in other mmos? Ya, that is super lazy way of making a lfg system.


The Queue system works, It made MMOS better for many types of players. For them not to have it on a next gen MMO is laughable.

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Gehoornde
01.11.2012 , 09:17 PM | #57
LFG tool might be not needed, but yet it will be added to the game.
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a_coathanger
01.11.2012 , 09:17 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Moricthian View Post
I think this is a fantastic idea.
The best option would be realm Priority in LFG so it checks your realm first. After that it opens to other realms.

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NoiseTankXIII
01.11.2012 , 09:20 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by a_coathanger View Post
The best option would be realm Priority in LFG so it checks your realm first. After that it opens to other realms.
WoW LFG also has this.

SURPRISE!

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faztazfuk
01.11.2012 , 09:21 PM | #60
I agree with this 100%