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[Official High Resolution Textures Post] Can we get a clarification on this?

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[Official High Resolution Textures Post] Can we get a clarification on this?

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bkpiazza
01.11.2012 , 05:14 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by xChiZx View Post
Not to feed the flames here... but I'm extremely disappointed by Bioware's decision on the matter, and I'm pretty confident that their decision to cater to the lowest common denominator and only that, will not work to their advantage.

This is the first time I have ever played an MMO where developers have decided to halve the texture quality not as an option but as a mandatory change across all clients. It's unforgivable, and the reasons behind it are ridiculous.

Until now, I've been tinkering a lot with the .ini as well as NvidiaInspector to try to force high res character textures.
Thinking it was an LOD bug, I forced the LOD bias to -3.00 and noticed something else happening instead. It seems we may not even be getting the best environment textures the game has to offer because the standard LOD refuses to render them.

I've attached screenshots below for comparison between what the game is rendering at standard "high" settings, and what the game renders with LOD bias forced below the standard threshold.

Standard LOD:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...TOR_No_LOD.jpg

Forced LOD:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...Forced_LOD.jpg

I should also mention that the change has made no impact on my FPS, and has if anything made the game run smoother for me.

WOWW this changes the game for me thank you so much!!!!

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PjPablo
01.11.2012 , 05:14 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by calibro View Post
What a garbage engine is this...
WoW handles textures that are so much better-looking, like here:
http://eu.media.blizzard.com/wow/med...en03-large.jpg
Sure, the polygon count is lower, that's out of the question, but textures in Blizzard adverts are looking exactly as what you can see when playing!
WoW engine - development started in 1999 (afaik, please correct if i'm wrong).
Hero engine - somewhere around 2004-2005, i think?

Compare this:
http://eu.media.blizzard.com/wow/med...en02-large.jpg
to that:
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/7...1110050596.jpg

Not to mention fps i'm getting when messing around in Orgrimmar (1 phase for all!) and Imperial Fleet.
You must be mistaken. I think that last one there is from Asheron's Call. If I squint I can see a Tusker.

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zerojs
01.11.2012 , 05:15 PM | #123
If you have a ati card, download a program called radeonpro, go to global settings and advanced, set mipmap bias to -3 for super sharp reflection textures and environment textures.
Or a better comprimise is - 2 , fps doesnt suffer much with that setting.

If your usin nvidia card, use nvidia inspector instead, ive not used that one tho so i cant say.
But this only effects environment textures and reflection textures, NOT characters

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Xreasonz
01.11.2012 , 05:15 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Onisamapwnsyou View Post
Add me to the list of pissed off high end pc users!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Caonimah View Post
"Dont blame us, blame the computers that cant run this game with our glorious textures at maximum!"- Bioware 2012

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Nitrius
01.11.2012 , 05:15 PM | #125
Just want to add:

These "high res textures" are already ingame, but only used for cut-scenes at the moment, shouldn't be too hard adding an option for people that are able to run those "high res textures" outside of cut-scenes as well?

As i've understood they where there in beta so i don't really see the problem here. So gives us the option, options shouldn't hurt at all.

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Ashes_Arizona
01.11.2012 , 05:15 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Pyrolight View Post
There has been one in the last 5 years that has not had high res textures as an option? I don't mean F2P either.
F2P games make sure their armor looks fantastic cause its part of the hook that gets people to pay in more money than they'd paid for a "premium" MMO.

Not a fan of Perfect World Entertainment but they definitely don't skimp on visuals cause its how they make a profit.

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Exostotic
01.11.2012 , 05:15 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by leetlazzy View Post
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3...lmorra__9_.jpg

False advertising!

I want my money back.
In their defense, that is actually a cut scene.

But damn! I want the game to always look like that. That is gorgeous

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Zezel
01.11.2012 , 05:16 PM | #128
Originally Posted by SucXeviouS
Quoted from massively user Deliverator:

"THIS IS ALL CAUSED BY BIOWARE IMPLEMENTING REMOTE RENDERING AS A FORM OF COPY PROTECTION. THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING BETWEEN THE HIGH SETTINGS DURING BETA AND THE SETTINGS AVAILABLE NOW.

Massively - what you missed is that the High Rez textures worked fine in the Beta. For release, they implemented REMOTE RENDERING. What's actually happening is that they can't handle the network traffic generated by remotely rendering higher rez textures.

Let me repeat - High Rez doesn't work because of anti-piracy DRM shenanigans, not because they're concerned about players' machines. They're remote rendering so people who have purchased the game won't be able to dig through Lucas's precious artwork for their fan sites.

Again - they're remote rendering so you can't 'steal' what you bought already. Its copy protection and they're willing to go so far as to gimp the game and lie to cover it up.

Remote rendering is the cause of all of the frame drops and slow downs as well as advanced rendering features not working, We pay big money to buy the machines that have gigantic pipes between all of our components, especially to the GPUs. Internet throughput is nowhere near the bandwidth on your motherboard."

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01...onc/4#comments

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Threefiddie
01.11.2012 , 05:16 PM | #129
has anyone seen this http://i.imgur.com/0lF3U.jpg

lol

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Ommm
01.11.2012 , 05:16 PM | #130
Poeple need to made aware on this on all fronts.
This signature is currently missing from the website. I don't have an ETA on when will this basic feature be implemented but it is in my plans.