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Please fix normal mode operation loot

Nissin's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 10:49 AM | #1
When loot drops that I have and gets assigned to me over another Mercenary who just hit 50 and we are trying to get gear for quickly it isn't a very effective system. This needs to be looked into being changed and currently Hard/Nightmare loot works fine we have a master looter who assigns loot with no problems but a whole normal mode clear is wasted when people with loot already have companion epics now basically while your guild mate is sitting in greens.

At least make purple loot tradeable for a small time window within operations/flashpoints to avoid these type of situations that is all I ask thanks.
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Imapwnu's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:07 AM | #2
I seriously don't understand this loot system either, whichever way I look at it.

Yesterday my guild cleared the first 4 bosses of EV on Normal, there was me (dps guardian), tank guardian, and a sentinel in the raid. The other guardian got 3 token (Columi gear) items and 3 Heavy armor items, while me and sentinel got nothing. The sad thing is the other guardian already had most of those items, and he got duplicates, with no way to change who gets items and no way to trade them to one of us. This is just too retarded and I consider it a game breaking bug/mechanic which enraged me so much I am thinking about cancelling my subscription. I would really like some explanation on this loot system, to me it just seems too retarded to be real.
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Goats's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:09 AM | #3
Well, BW tried to come up with a system that would work with PUGs since normal mode in SWtOR is basically LFR from WoW, and they want to avoid all the the ridiculous loot problems in that mode. I agree 100% though, the current system is just horrible. We did normal EV last night and my guildee got 3 pieces and he already had all 3, and all 3 could have been used by other people.

I understand what they're trying to do, but it falls on its face big time. It seems like they go out of their way to avoid copying almost anything from WoW, when they should recognize that WoW has 7 years on them and almost every system in WoW is super ironed out and close to flawless. I'm not trying to jump on WoW's nuts, but it's true.

Take some notes from the 400 lb gorilla BW!

Nissin's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:20 AM | #4
It is just really frustrating I am a min/max player and the best way to progress is upgrading your guild mates with loot that gives the largest upgrades/benefit but the game just laughs in your face and makes you vendor loot basically.

Making loot tradable would fix all these problems you put systems in place for the small minority of ******s out there and screw over the large majority of people who are not gigantic loot whore ninjas.
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Imapwnu's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:27 AM | #5
I don't get why it chooses 1 person who gets all the items from that raid. ALL the items, seriously? Not even some kind of Round Robin? It's just completely broken and I don't see how it can work, even for PUG's. Right now if you don't get an item from first boss, you may as well just leave the raid cause you won't get anything from the rest of the bosses either.
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eightohfive's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:38 AM | #6
It doesn't pick just one person and they are the ones who get loot the whole run. I did it last night and I got an item from the first and second bosses, but nothing after that. (It's just a different form of loot bags that they always talked about, except they leave out the bags and you just loot the item/crystals assigned to you straight off the boss)

I do agree tho that the random loot assignment is the worst idea I've seen implemented in this game, hands down. It's fine the first run, where nobody really has any gear, but after that it's just...rage inducing.
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Sickleh's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:53 AM | #7
After you clear normal once go onto hard mode?

I do agree it is annoying to see loot assigned to a person who already has the piece or whatever but seriously, move onto hard mode and put on master looter.

Nissin's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 11:55 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Sickleh View Post
After you clear normal once go onto hard mode?

I do agree it is annoying to see loot assigned to a person who already has the piece or whatever but seriously, move onto hard mode and put on master looter.
We are 5/5 hard mode it is idiotic though not to clear normal also for extra loot at minimum to get 4 piece sets and weapons both being Columi level.
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Farabee's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 12:04 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Nissin View Post
We are 5/5 hard mode it is idiotic though not to clear normal also for extra loot.
This. It's on a different lockout and there are only 6 bosses in the game. There's no reason not to clear through normal.

I also agree on the auto-assignment. At least let people who can use it roll for it.
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xWhackoJacko's Avatar

01.11.2012 , 01:22 PM | #10
lol yes. this is so dumb.

I made a post earlier about it.

Like our first run had one of our inquis guys get like 3 pieces over our tank and a even more undergeared sorc them himself. A couple of cunning items going to a certain player that were only sidegrades as opposed to 100% upgrades for another IA.

The fact that its essentially random just makes gearing for the harder difficulties more time consuming. Just let us master loot like normal ffs.....

Did they not think that guilds would run this as a 100% premade? They couldn't have expected that only pugs would run normal mode raids. You gotta gear up somehow right?

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