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Addon request: Identify players wasting my time by not hitting spacebar

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Addon request: Identify players wasting my time by not hitting spacebar

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LogicalPremise
01.11.2012 , 11:05 AM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Knyghtprowler View Post
You have two groups of people, those that want to see Cutscenes and those that don't.

Those people for this functionality - seem pretty civil about it and are simply saying let us group with people that wish to play the game the same way we want to play it. Do not force us to waste our time doing things we don't want to do.

It is like the people that are against it are saying "I'm happy with the game as is, screw you and your ideas"
Argh, you're ruining the trolling!

No, seriously, that's a good point. I think the problem isn't actually that they don't want it, but rather that they don't even want the option because they fear that there are more people who are "WoW kiddies who don't care about story" than there are people who do, and the only way to keep people playing the game "as Bioware intended" is to deny all forms of ability to identify and remove people who don't subscribe to the "efficiency + speed > story" mechanic.

Now, most of the people who are defending the ability to "play the game how you like" are being bashed by the "play the game the way Bioware intended it" crowd because they are asking for things sourced in WoW and other games like it, such as DPS meters and other tools used to gate content.

As a result, I think over the past two weeks we've seen reasonable posters turn into borderline trolls because they are justifiably worried the game will devolve into WoW with Ewoks and Lightsabers.

I say that's a foolish worry -- there are more people here who reject WoW and that sort of thing than there are people who just want WoW with a different skin. There will ALWAYS be groups and people interested in the story. Raiders and grinders will always be a minority because the game isn't really set up for them in the first place.

It's a moot argument become heated for no good reason.
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DammitCat
01.11.2012 , 11:05 AM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by Caonimah View Post
And others play differently from you and this is different how? If you want to make a quick run group, just spam /1 with "making a group for x instance, must skip all story"
He did. It's in the OP, pre-edit. Read it next time.

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Syrellaris
01.11.2012 , 11:05 AM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by Gashers View Post
Wow, calm down. There's no place for insults in this discussion. You won't get a chance to grief me because I will now be able to tell when players of your type aren't hitting spacebar. It's not YOUR game, it's everyone's game, I play differently from you. Please be more civil for now on.
If it is my first time in that dungeon, I will watch the cutscenes. It is that simple. Don't like it? well thats your problem.
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Caonimah
01.11.2012 , 11:05 AM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by DammitCat View Post
He did. It's in the OP, pre-edit. Read it next time.
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SlickDevlan
01.11.2012 , 11:06 AM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by Gashers View Post
This is a plea to addon authors. When this game enables support for addons, someone please make one that identifies players who fail by not skipping group conversations with spacebar. This way I can quickly boot them from my group and try to find more efficient players to group with. When I spam my LFM, I already add "no cutscenes" but people still refuse to hit the spacebar sometimes.

Edit: I think, for now, this issue has been resolved for me thanks to a helpful post by Zannis. I will be now be able to easily determine which player is being uncooperative and remove them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zannis
If people actually looked at the rolls being made on character portraits during a grouped cutscene, they would realize there is already a means to figure out who's watching them in game already.

There will be dots while someone is watching the movie, and a dash when they're done and waiting.


Thank you for this helpful info. I had no idea you could determine this from the group portraits. My groups should run a lot smoother now that I can replace players who don't follow my politely stated rules.
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Knyghtprowler
01.11.2012 , 11:06 AM | #226
I think a system in game for the GL would be the best fix.

I also think it should also pop a window up to all people accepting invites letting them know ahead of time what the group settings are. At that point if they don't like them, they can decline.

Example:

So and so has invited you to a group.
Loot Settings: FFA loot
Content Setting: Off

Do you accept?
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ChimaeraUK
01.11.2012 , 11:07 AM | #227
Had something similar the other day running hammer station, me (trooper) and 3 jedi's. They just would not stop after fights to let me recharge ammo then complained when i couldn't use my abilities.

Everything has to be done crazy fast.

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DammitCat
01.11.2012 , 11:08 AM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by Knyghtprowler View Post
I think a system in game for the GL would be the best fix.

I also think it should also pop a window up to all people accepting invites letting them know ahead of time what the group settings are. At that point if they don't like them, they can decline.

Example:

So and so has invited you to a group.
Loot Settings: FFA loot
Content Setting: Off

Do you accept?
Now THAT is a good idea.

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LogicalPremise
01.11.2012 , 11:08 AM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by Syrellaris View Post
If it is my first time in that dungeon, I will watch the cutscenes. It is that simple. Don't like it? well thats your problem.
May I ask a question?

If you see a group about to do an FP, and all 3 of the other players state prior to start that they are grinding, and that you should probably find another group if you haven't run it before so you won't slow them down, do you feel you have the right to demand all 3 watch the cutscenes because you haven't or do you leave the group to find another?
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Syrellaris
01.11.2012 , 11:09 AM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by LogicalPremise View Post
Argh, you're ruining the trolling!

No, seriously, that's a good point. I think the problem isn't actually that they don't want it, but rather that they don't even want the option because they fear that there are more people who are "WoW kiddies who don't care about story" than there are people who do, and the only way to keep people playing the game "as Bioware intended" is to deny all forms of ability to identify and remove people who don't subscribe to the "efficiency + speed > story" mechanic.

Now, most of the people who are defending the ability to "play the game how you like" are being bashed by the "play the game the way Bioware intended it" crowd because they are asking for things sourced in WoW and other games like it, such as DPS meters and other tools used to gate content.

As a result, I think over the past two weeks we've seen reasonable posters turn into borderline trolls because they are justifiably worried the game will devolve into WoW with Ewoks and Lightsabers.

I say that's a foolish worry -- there are more people here who reject WoW and that sort of thing than there are people who just want WoW with a different skin. There will ALWAYS be groups and people interested in the story. Raiders and grinders will always be a minority because the game isn't really set up for them in the first place.

It's a moot argument become heated for no good reason.
No but the the threat and chances of leaders like the OP will only increase if we let them grow. If we cut them down now, there might be less of them. Simply if it keeps growing, you will have people complaining they want ways to enjoy the flashpoint stories without being kicked during or after a cutscene.

Basically if you let them kick you constantly cuz you watch the cutscenes and they don't like it, the trend will end up them dictating the way you play, instead of what they have been advocating "the way we want to play".
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