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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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Umbral
01.11.2012 , 09:18 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
I never said it had to beat WoW. I'm saying it will surpass WoW in popularity in the only markets that really matter.
I don't have a crystal ball, so who knows, you may be right. The thing is though, If it were me I'd be doing my homework a bit better and not relying solely on a blog where, if one really reads, the person is asking the reader to make some big leaps of faith to believe how the blogger is manipulating the numbers.

That and it would be wise not to forget that this has all been seen a number of times since WoW became the 800 lb gorilla it is. Just about every AAA (or wanted to be AAA) title released in the last few years has had really good initial sales, but once the people came to play, and saw unfinished games lacking in the popular features today's mmo gamer wants in the mmo they play, the subscription numbers plummeted after the first month.

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Isgarot
01.11.2012 , 09:20 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Just_CPJ View Post
SWTOR is the next gen MMO
I lolled hard on this ....

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Hokonoso
01.11.2012 , 09:21 AM | #73
i already knew this, wow peaked (key word peaked) at 4.5 million us AND eu subs COMBINED! the 14mil + is all asia which this game does not have a market for at all, so minus 11+ million from wow subs to compare it to this game.

plus casuals and girls LOVE this game, wow has no hope! even pandas and pokemon cannot save it in us/eu markets!

if this game releases in asian? then GG! i could easily see 20mil+ asian subs alone!
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Godsfear
01.11.2012 , 09:21 AM | #74
Actually Russia is blizzards biggest market currently.

Also I have a really hard time believing this game is pulling hardly any subs from WOW.

I haven't played WOW in a long time but I know any WOW player must log onto SWTOR and wonder why the buttons are so smooshy.

I'll sub to Swtor for 1 extra month but you're fooling yourself if you think a game with this much lack of polish is going to pull subs from a solid game like WOW.

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Blackwater
01.11.2012 , 09:21 AM | #75
You do realize the max amount of people SWTORs servers can handle are 4500, and the max WoWs can handle are 20,000 right?

Just think about that for one second. SWTOR averaged 350,000k concurrent members on a weekend prime time, WoW has over 1.5 million on a weekday non-prime time.

The dip in subs is because WoW is getting ready to launch another expansion so there is less content to do

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Jylian
01.11.2012 , 09:22 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by SlickDevlan View Post
You don't read well do you. NA and European subs. We all know that WoW has 80 bazillion Chinese kids playing themselves to death.
Reported.

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Thamelas
01.11.2012 , 09:23 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Godsfear View Post
Actually Russia is blizzards biggest market currently.

Also I have a really hard time believing this game is pulling hardly any subs from WOW.

I haven't played WOW in a long time but I know any WOW player must log onto SWTOR and wonder why the buttons are so smooshy.

I'll sub to Swtor for 1 extra month but you're fooling yourself if you think a game with this much lack of polish is going to pull subs from a solid game like WOW.
Well you are looking at one. I played WoW 7 years. I canceled WoW after my first week in BETA.
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Razot
01.11.2012 , 09:25 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Godsfear View Post
Actually Russia is blizzards biggest market currently.

Also I have a really hard time believing this game is pulling hardly any subs from WOW.

I haven't played WOW in a long time but I know any WOW player must log onto SWTOR and wonder why the buttons are so smooshy.

I'll sub to Swtor for 1 extra month but you're fooling yourself if you think a game with this much lack of polish is going to pull subs from a solid game like WOW.
Hmmm thats Interesting! as a former NC member in EVE I would have sworn the Russians all played EVE..

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OriginalVs
01.11.2012 , 09:29 AM | #79
To be honest, this MMO is nothing new. It's basically a Star Wars skins on top of any other MMO. SWTOR had 6 years to do great things with this game. It's 2012! They haven't done nothing different, they've named dungeons to flashpoints, warzones to battlegrounds. They done something different with the tree system, just to a small point. They put in voice overs, and how much did they spend on this game? $200 million! LOL. They've done nothing different.

What I'm trying to say is, it's just another simple MMO with a Star Wars skin.

Guild Wars 2 has done it ALL different. Guild Wars 2 is the one to watch out for, not SWTOR. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure SWTOR will do well, but only because it's STAR WARS! Lol. Not because it's gonna be a great MMO. Wake up please.

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Isgarot
01.11.2012 , 09:33 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Hokonoso View Post
i already knew this, wow peaked (key word peaked) at 4.5 million us AND eu subs COMBINED! the 14mil + is all asia which this game does not have a market for at all, so minus 11+ million from wow subs to compare it to this game.

plus casuals and girls LOVE this game, wow has no hope! even pandas and pokemon cannot save it in us/eu markets!

if this game releases in asian? then GG! i could easily see 20mil+ asian subs alone!
yep and hello kitty online will have 200mil+ sub ... just keep your feet on the ground ...

Wow its a fast responsive combat, and so a competitive gaming is possible...swtor simply not.

I cant image an huttbal tournament with all contenders that lag because poor interior optimization and smashing keys to get a damm cc to fire up XD

after this Swtor its just too much on rail..... roll an alt its almost the same ... 99% of quest are just the same except for a unique class quest for zones