The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

I don't think Swtor has more subscribers than WOW, Nor will it for the 2+ years.

Consumers like stability, and they get a stable overall satisfactory Gameplay experience with WoW. Swtor needs works before it can be proven to compete with WOW.

I don't get it... Do you folks have personal stock in these companies? I'm no WOW fan, tried it 3 times over the course of it's life at friends urging, and could never get into it. Yet they're obviously doing something right to still be around after so long. I'm loving SWTOR. Seems to be a completely different game catering to a completely different player base. So why does everyone feel the need to constantly explain how one is going to kill the other, or one is better than the other, etc... It just seems to me that both can exist and those who like WOW can play WOW, those who like SWTOR can play SWTOR. Just because they're both MMO's doesn't make them the same genre.

All i can see is that most servers population is dropping instead of increasing.

You misunderstand. As far as WE are concerned asian numbers don't matter. They will never affect OUR servers.

Therefore the US and Europe market are the only ones that really matter to we the players.

A list of games in which people claimed the same thing.

1. Everquest 2
2. Star Trek Online
3. Warhammer Online
4. Aion
5. Age of Conan : Publisher actually claimed that they acomplished this at one point right prior to laying off half their staff and going free to play.
6. Rift
7. Lord of the Rings.
8. Dungeons and Dragons Online


Just to name a few. None of them came even close, some of them had better numbers on launch than SWOTR has today (like Age of Conan for example).

Its wishful thinking and certainly I'm rooting for them as I have for many others but the FACT is that World of Warcraft is the most popular Entertainment in the world (not even talking game here... including all forms of entertainment in the world). It is a phenomenon, god knows why, but it is.

sorry, but no. Everyone is still on the free 30 days, a lot are playing both right now, and if the crippling ability delay/general unresponsiveness of the combat system isnt corrected, it will lose the hardcore pve and pvp players. People throw out the, but it just launched or wow didnt have so and so on launch either, excuses all the time, and the fact is wow is what? 6 years old now? tor has all of that work to build from, not having proper pvp matchmaking, bracketed pvp, or a combat system that works 100% of the time is a pretty big fail

Add to that the fact that the game came out on the tail end of 2011 and has no high res textures, no AA, and poor performance on a range of high end hardware.

I want this game to succeed, and it likely will financially just from the star wars nerdbase and casual/RP crowds, but i want it to succeed across the board. Sadly, I fear that it will not.

Boasting about (fictional) subs when the free month isn't even up... how cute.

You don't read well do you. NA and European subs. We all know that WoW has 80 bazillion Chinese kids playing themselves to death.

Does it really matter how many subs WoW has?

Creating stuff for the general population does not mean its any good! I remember the Spinner Rims was the hot, and that was never a good idea!

9 mil vs 1 mil.

Nope, not seeing it.
Keep pretending.