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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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Cordelia
01.11.2012 , 07:17 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Ludicracy View Post
Why do people concern themselves with what game is better? Both Blizzard and BioWare have made amazing games, what is the point in comparing one MMO to another when your having fun playing the game, that's really the whole point to a video game is it not?
I don't understand this obsession either. Why are people so desperate to try and prove WoW is failing. All this hate towards a game is unhealthy. I fully agree with you both are amazing games in their own right. Surely there is room for both to co-exist without all this negativity towards WoW.

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Kabloosh
01.11.2012 , 07:23 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Cordelia View Post
I don't understand this obsession either. Why are people so desperate to try and prove WoW is failing. All this hate towards a game is unhealthy. I fully agree with you both are amazing games in their own right. Surely there is room for both to co-exist without all this negativity towards WoW.
Its like the whole BF vs CoD or xbox vs play station crap. Why can't we just play both?

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WowWasBetter
01.11.2012 , 07:28 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by septusmortis View Post
Sorry I dont understand what do you mean?
The article used information from vgcharts to support its theory that wow is lying about its sub numbers, however on vgcharts it says tor sold 305k copies. Which is obviously wrong. The rest of the metrics used don't even cite a source that gives the data used in the post

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torwes
01.11.2012 , 07:29 AM | #54
Of course, this has nothing to do with the Christmas and New Year's holidays being over and people actually having to work in the weeks.

Naah, nothing to do with it at all.

[/sarcasm]

Quote: Originally Posted by septusmortis View Post
OOPS FAIL.... SEE BELOW

http://www.swtorarena.com/statistics/

simple fact 25% less people logging in since go live and the free time has not even run out yet.... Expect a large drop off as well once the 21st comes...

What these graphs say (even taking into account seasonal adjustment the trend continued downward over the xmas period) is the trend is straight down and thats still in the free play period...

This means that after the initial 2 million bought 500k are no longer logging in

The game is unfortunately tanking...

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Just_CPJ
01.11.2012 , 07:33 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
SWTOR doesn't compare to WoW outside of 'levelling' and 'number of cinematics' so the comparison is dumb. WoW is, and always has been, about end game competitiveness. SWTOR has no end game, at least no end game that is worthwhile. There's just no way SWTOR will ever match WoW in terms of end game mechanics and accessibility, and when 4.3.2 comes out with the cross-realm battle.net raiding, I expect a lot of subscriptions to be renewed.
I would bet against that. At some point people can no longer play a sub par experience when compared to the newer stuff on the market. While SWTOR has a lot of things in common with WoW and quite a few things are missing because the game is young, there ae a couple simple factors that will keep people from going back to WoW:

1) Graphics
2) Voice-Acting
3) Incredible Role-playing experience.

I'm not gonna say SWTOR is more polished cuz its not yet. but theres a reason why a vast majority of people aren't playing older games even though those games are built better. SWTOR is the next gen MMO and I don't believe enough casuals will go back to WoW considering how much SWTOR trumps WoW with those 3 factors.

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Bhorzo
01.11.2012 , 07:37 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
Also add in the fact that the majority of Blizzard's player numbers are from Asia.
Oh right, I forgot, Asians don't count ... they're not people anyways.

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Quaade
01.11.2012 , 07:41 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
I never said it had to beat WoW. I'm saying it will surpass WoW in popularity in the only markets that really matter.
Silly me, and here I thought the only markets that mattered were the ones where you earned money.

Appearently asian people aren't real people and is not using real money, which I'm sure all the companies trying to break -into- the asian markets will be surprised to hear.

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Quaade
01.11.2012 , 07:47 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Just_CPJ View Post
I would bet against that. At some point people can no longer play a sub par experience when compared to the newer stuff on the market. While SWTOR has a lot of things in common with WoW and quite a few things are missing because the game is young, there ae a couple simple factors that will keep people from going back to WoW:

1) Graphics
2) Voice-Acting
3) Incredible Role-playing experience.

I'm not gonna say SWTOR is more polished cuz its not yet. but theres a reason why a vast majority of people aren't playing older games even though those games are built better. SWTOR is the next gen MMO and I don't believe enough casuals will go back to WoW considering how much SWTOR trumps WoW with those 3 factors.
Better graphics, yes, more interesting design and use of the said graphics, no. WoW has style, TOR has surface, style will almost always draw more people.

Eventually you do get tired of being told the same thing, it's like visiting someone and they always repeat the same story and being shown is still a better storytelling method over being told. WoW is better at showing than TOR is, in it's designs, in the world and when it wants to affect you emotionally (No little Pamela Redpath, I'm not crying, I'm just sweathing trough my eyes).

In a roleplay you have free choice, you have a GM (poor bastard) who has to adapt to what you as players do, even when you mess up his carefully planned adventure. There's no such thing in TOR, if you do something that would mess up the story, someone comes in a picks up the pieces so you do what the game wants you to do anyway.

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septusmortis
01.11.2012 , 07:48 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by torwes View Post
Of course, this has nothing to do with the Christmas and New Year's holidays being over and people actually having to work in the weeks.

Naah, nothing to do with it at all.

[/sarcasm]
Check the trend and actually read the graphs the trend started literally from day 5 so WHILST THE HOLIDAYS WERE STILL GOING ON

I take your sarcasm and turn it into factual staments! ;oP

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Truga
01.11.2012 , 07:59 AM | #60
Question is, who cares about the numbers?

Do you enjoy the game?

Yes? Shut up and keep playing.
No? Shut up and gb2<insert your favorite game>.
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