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Involuntarily flagged for PvP as a 32 by a 50 on a PvE server.

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Involuntarily flagged for PvP as a 32 by a 50 on a PvE server.

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MrSchmo
01.16.2012 , 04:41 PM | #41
So many elitist on here. Just deal with it, level up and fight back are not constructive responses. If pve people want to pvp, they'd flag themselves or would of rolled on a pvp server. I'm all for pvp on pve, when it's on equal terms. Griefing someone into a fight they can't win is just wrong.
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01.16.2012 , 04:54 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSchmo View Post
So many elitist on here. Just deal with it, level up and fight back are not constructive responses. If pve people want to pvp, they'd flag themselves or would of rolled on a pvp server. I'm all for pvp on pve, when it's on equal terms. Griefing someone into a fight they can't win is just wrong.
I agree even being a pvp player , really if it was on a pvp server i would say grow balls , but those that chose a pve server for not wanting this kind of fight should not have it.
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01.16.2012 , 04:58 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by MrSchmo View Post
So many elitist on here. Just deal with it, level up and fight back are not constructive responses. If pve people want to pvp, they'd flag themselves or would of rolled on a pvp server. I'm all for pvp on pve, when it's on equal terms. Griefing someone into a fight they can't win is just wrong.
Agreed. The people on PVE servers picked it so they could choose when to PVP...it should actually work that way.
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01.16.2012 , 05:02 PM | #44
This is indeed a issue which needs to be fixed. It has been a problem in the past in WoW. Auto accidently pvp flagging should not happen on a pve server. Any game company who says they will not force players to engage into pvp if they wish not to and allows this to happen...is being careless with thier flagging design.
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marcusaxavier
01.16.2012 , 05:02 PM | #45
I agree that the involuntary flagging for PvP needs to end.

On PvE servers, unless you are grouped with someone who is flagged, you should not be also flagged for PvP for them attacking the same mob or you giving them a buff.

My toon was flagged on Taris for buffing a player that I did not know had flagged themselves for PvP. I was thinking, "I'll just buff this player, like I've done to others and others have done to me before." Next thing I know, I get a message that I've been flagged for PvP and need to abstain from PvP for the 5 minutes to turn it off. It was fortunate that I was not in an area with players from the opposite faction around.
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01.16.2012 , 05:03 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by BrigOrion View Post
This highlights just how little the TOR devs know what they are doing. PvP should not be an option of any kind on the PvE servers. Not even sparring or dueling. PvP should be 100% restricted to the servers dedicated to PvP. PvE players choose a PvE server because they don't want to play with that ganking crap.

More BioWare/EA/Lucasarts fail.
I wouldn't go as far as saying no PvP what so ever on a PvE. But it should be exactly how it is stated on the PVE description, which states that PvP MUST be consensual. Unfortunately there is an exploit in the game that can make PvP not consensual on a PvE server. But you are right, people chose to play on a PvE server because they didn't want to participate in World ganking, er I mean PvP, but that doesn't mean they don't want PvP at all.

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monjiay
01.16.2012 , 05:09 PM | #47
I think Rift got it right. On a PVE server you have two options, to automatically flag and NOT to automatically flag.

If you chose to not flag, then you cannot buff or heal people who are flagged and cannot do any damage to a person of the opposite faction that is flagged.

Of course, it's much more important in Rift because you have these big RIFTS where both factions are fighting side by side and if every time you used an AOE spell you got flagged then it wouldn't be a PVE server.

In this game there really isn't any open world fighting so the only people who are getting flagged is by people stealthing in, taking advantage of a broken mechanic and ganking players.

Once more people hit 50 they will start going to lowbie areas and ganking like crazy so I'm hoping Bioware has this at the very TOP of their to-do list. Otherwise you're going to be hearing a lot about it in the next few weeks, and we don't need anymore bad press for this game, that's for sure.

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stickyricky
01.16.2012 , 05:09 PM | #48
ITT: OP met a guy who is so scrubby he needed to roll on a PvE server to gank people 16 levels lower than himself by using an exploit.

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Zorvan
01.16.2012 , 05:13 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by rzrknight View Post
I agree even being a pvp player , really if it was on a pvp server i would say grow balls , but those that chose a pve server for not wanting this kind of fight should not have it.
A fine example of a true PvP'er and not one of the baddies who need to trick PvE players to get their kicks and prove their "skills". Kudos, good sir/lady.
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01.23.2012 , 10:24 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfeisberg View Post
I wouldn't go as far as saying no PvP what so ever on a PvE. But it should be exactly how it is stated on the PVE description, which states that PvP MUST be consensual. Unfortunately there is an exploit in the game that can make PvP not consensual on a PvE server. But you are right, people chose to play on a PvE server because they didn't want to participate in World ganking, er I mean PvP, but that doesn't mean they don't want PvP at all.
Agreed. I bought this game with the understanding that there were going to be PVE servers, not servers where you can play PVE only if you're able to outsmart the exploiters and weinies who can't cut it on the PVP servers.

So it comes down to this. Give the PVPers everything they want. Always. There are dedicated PVP servers. There is PVP on the PVE servers. Then they allow involuntary PVP flagging on PVE people. If I didn't know better, I'd start thinking some of the devs are PVPers themselves and thinking this is a really fun "feature" for their PVP "brethren" out there.