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How do Jedi continue to exist/be strong?

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How do Jedi continue to exist/be strong?

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Guildrum
01.10.2012 , 06:53 PM | #1
Okay. So this is just a small compilation of what I know about the Force, and Jedi, and how logically, that Jedi shouldn't be able to exist for "Thousands of Generations".

1. Force Sensitivity is strong in familial ties

Explanation: It is mentioned in Gnost-Dural's journal that the force can be especially strong in a bloodline, while it is not necessarily required for force sensitivity. Makes sense right?

2. Jedi- No Love for you!

And so, the Jedi Council had, at best, discouraged, and at worst, outlawed romance and marriage, because of the attachments it created.

So obviously, Jedi have to be force-sensitive, and if you come from a family of Force-users, you will be especially strong. But thing is, if one is following the Jedi Code and the Council, they can't have love and marriage, and cannot have children nor raise a family.

So as a result, the strong Force-user ties would weaken over a period of a couple hundred years.

But wait, thousands of generations...

>.>

So that means, that over time, there become less and less force users, because obviously, to become force sensitive out of a family that is not is rare, and a "great honor". So, that means that over time, the Jedi will shrink in number and falter in ability. Meanwhile the Sith are running around like teenagers... Yeah.

Just a little thing I noticed, thank goodness for Plot Armor!
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SithEater
01.10.2012 , 07:00 PM | #2
There are trillions and trillions and trillions of beings in the Galaxy, so very rare even outside of strong Force Sensitive bloodlines still amounts to a fair number of Force Sensitives.

Also you can be a fully trained Jedi and get married and have kids you simply get booted out of the Jedi Order. Still just as strong in the Force, still fully trained, just no longer a card carrying member of the Order.
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Zalanox
01.10.2012 , 07:00 PM | #3
Procreation does not require love or emotion.
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ImApologetic
01.10.2012 , 07:02 PM | #4
Not all Jedi follow the code.

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Lodril
01.10.2012 , 07:07 PM | #5
A few flaws in your argument.

First, even if force sensitivity only ran in families, there are still non-Jedi members of a family. So while there might be few father/son Jedi, there could be plenty of uncle/nephew, or even just cousins. If every mating pair only has one child apiece, then the galactic civilization as a whole would be rapidly dwindling in population anyway.

Secondly, the idea that the Jedi all follow the rules has been widely disproven in most of the fiction. Jedi flaunt every other rule, so there are no doubt quite a few who disregard the rules regarding romance and family.

Thirdly, failed force sensitives leave the order all the time, and even full Jedi can apparently retire from the order (Count Dooku is a famous example).

Fourthly, in a technologically advanced society, there are plenty of ways to reproduce without sex or relationships. A few skin cells or hair follicles might be enough to provide a genetic sample for artificial reproduction.

Fifthly, you're overlooking the sample size. The Republic has trillions, quadrillions or even more citizens. Amidst that entire population, even with all other factors working against them, random mutations would probably provide a pretty decent supply of any genetic feature imaginable. Even if the chances are only one in a billion, there would still be thousands of them.

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Durstilla
01.10.2012 , 10:10 PM | #6
how are the jedi are still strong? they have a 3 inch tall Satele Shan!

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ErikModi
01.10.2012 , 10:24 PM | #7
This is where claims that "midichlorians demystify the Force" fall flat on their faces.

If the Force were only a biological phenomena, related only to the passing of midichlorianal DNA from parent to child, the Jedi would indeed breed themselves out in a few hundred years. Thus, Force-Sensitivity, while it CAN be passed down through family lines, is not ONLY a product of having the right genes. In effect, the Force itself "chooses" people who will be born with Force-Sensitivity.
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LX_Theo
01.10.2012 , 11:57 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by ErikModi View Post
This is where claims that "midichlorians demystify the Force" fall flat on their faces.

If the Force were only a biological phenomena, related only to the passing of midichlorianal DNA from parent to child, the Jedi would indeed breed themselves out in a few hundred years. Thus, Force-Sensitivity, while it CAN be passed down through family lines, is not ONLY a product of having the right genes. In effect, the Force itself "chooses" people who will be born with Force-Sensitivity.
Im pretty sure that they made it really clear in the movies that midochlorians were beings that gathered more the stronger the force was. They arent actually making the force, only a side effect of being strong in it that allows force strength to be quanitified.

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Avrose
01.11.2012 , 12:05 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by LX_Theo View Post
Im pretty sure that they made it really clear in the movies that midochlorians were beings that gathered more the stronger the force was. They arent actually making the force, only a side effect of being strong in it that allows force strength to be quanitified.
Lets just pretend those things don't exist canon or no because being strong in the Force is more then enough for me.
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Gurluas
01.11.2012 , 01:13 AM | #10
You can still have children, you can just not form attachments.