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Rolling need for your companion

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Rolling need for your companion

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ferroz
01.10.2012 , 03:43 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Tahana View Post
Wrong.. Can your companion continue to fight if you fall in a fight? Until companions can do this they are nothing more than another NPC.
I can't continue to fight if I fall in a fight... does that man that I'm nothing more than another npc?

My companion = me. I = my companion. My character has a bunch of gear slots; some of them are represented in the game world by an avatar that I move around directly; some are represented in the game world by an avatar that I do not move around directly. Both of them are my character.

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:43 PM | #222
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
Your companion has a huge effect on PREVENTING you from "falling". Your arguments are so poor all across the board.
Hey marl...since you like to make stuff up...Can you do any flashpoint at lvl with your companion? Or do you need help from players?

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:44 PM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I can't continue to fight if I fall in a fight... does that man that I'm nothing more than another npc?

My companion = me. I = my companion. My character has a bunch of gear slots; some of them are represented in the game world by an avatar that I move around directly; some are represented in the game world by an avatar that I do not move around directly. Both of them are my character.
But your groupmates can, meaning they are better than a companion and deserve loot over yours. If you can't get past that then why not try getting a duo together with someone who needs on companion gear and do a flashpoint and gear them? Because you can't without player help? Ok then...

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WutsInAName
01.10.2012 , 03:45 PM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by DJJAZZY View Post
I didn't read through the whole thread but perhaps they could supply a roll bonus to actual characters who can use the weapon/armor. Put it on the Need roll only. Give a +100 bonus to the BH in the original posters example on the need roll. That way people who can't use but roll need for the companions can only get them if another player, that can use the item, but decided not to roll need on it.
woudl not work. here is why. What about me being a heavy armor user and not neededing the item myself but rolling need for pet since they do indeed get a pet who wears heavy.

The Simple fact is NO ONE needs upgrades from every instance, what you need it is to upgrade your mods.

Heck the only viable excuse for rolling need on orange gear when you already have orange in that slot is "because I like the way it looks"

So now you appearance need is better than my pets functional needs? I dont think so.

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Democratus
01.10.2012 , 03:46 PM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by laparkuh View Post
Yes because my willingness to share loot with PLAYERS makes me selfish...next try troll?
The player is the person behind a keyboard. It isn't a Jedi or his companion. Both of those are simply things used by a player. Both can be improved through improved equipment.

Getting upset that your digital paper doll lost out on a roll to some other digital paper doll is taking things a bit too seriously.

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KippTabor
01.10.2012 , 03:46 PM | #226
Quote: Originally Posted by akspace View Post
Okay, I'm not going to bother replying to various stupid comments.

But I can name a couple dozen people from my vanilla wow server who ended up quitting/re-rolling to different servers because of blacklisting. One of them was even an officer in progression guild. Over-time this went away in WoW, honestly I blame transfers, being able to just move without losing your progression means there is no incentive to punish the person misbehaving.

If you go back further, it was worse in EQ, it even happened in Rift but it wasn't about looting it was about poor skills with a given role. Just buying an extra role and claiming you are a healer would get you blacklisted really quickly. Of course this changed with LFD, I stopped playing around that point.

To claim this doesn't happen means you are very insular when it comes to server politics and probably aren't actually involved in any sort of guild leadership position.

Anyway, on topic, I don't believe people should role on companion gear. Some people claim a companion is part of your character you can't live without. I contend you can complete every non-heroic quest without any companion out. They just make the process easier.
(bold emphasis mine)

Exactly.

I have a feeling that people who think it's OK to companion need rarely group unless they have to to finish some content, then it's back to their insular gaming world. I'm sure we'll see some more word-salad, pseudo-intellectual denials about this, but it's starting to become evident to me to me that grouping is only a necessary evil for some of these folks, and if so, this is likely why they don't care if they get booted/black-listed for companion needing and screwing over a party member.
Never fire a laser at a mirror. ~Larry Niven

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Marlaine
01.10.2012 , 03:46 PM | #227
Quote: Originally Posted by Splitquick View Post
Marlaine after reading all posts in this thread. Yours are definitely the most infuriating. You tell people that they can't SEE your point of view, but you are completely closed off to the notion that YOU could be wrong.


So in this scenario:

You are in a full 4 player group running a flashpoint: Heavy armor drops, there is a heavy armor PLAYER in the group who NEEDS the item as an actual upgrade that he will put on immediately. You are a light armor wearer, but your PET Khem Val could use the upgrade. Do you roll need on it?

That scenario is all that needs to be figured out to see what kind of player you are. And if in the end, you cannot, in ANY way, see anything wrong with your companion taking gear from a player character who you are grouped with, then I feel sorry for you, because you are lacking a very basic emotion.

You are probably also immature, and do not play well with others :P
It's not that people can't see my point of view (and I've quite noticed it is not just MY point of view), it's that they refuse to adapt to the innovation of companions. They refuse to accept the fact that companions are an essential part of the overall character. They are stuck in the old paradigm and have not yet adapted.

If you have a beef with companions being an important part of your character, then take it up with Bioware! Not with the players playing the game clearly as intended. I am arguing FACT, and you guys are arguing emotional opinion. THAT is why your are infuriated by my posts.

The exact same things I've said have been repeated by others throughout this thread. I am far from alone here.

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rzrknight
01.10.2012 , 03:46 PM | #228
Like was said before , if a person ninja your item ignore the person and leave group , why you guys even discussing this with people that do this to begin with lols.

PS: i hope they add a black list at some point so it always warns me if that person is in my group.
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The followers said: "I shall QQ my lord, i shall QQ."
And since then , not a single day passed without the QQs being heard.

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KippTabor
01.10.2012 , 03:47 PM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by Democratus View Post
The player is the person behind a keyboard. It isn't a Jedi or his companion. Both of those are simply things used by a player. Both can be improved through improved equipment.

Getting upset that your digital paper doll lost out on a roll to some other digital paper doll is taking things a bit too seriously.
Then why have rolling at all? Let's just let whoever tags the corpse first get it.
Never fire a laser at a mirror. ~Larry Niven

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Splitquick
01.10.2012 , 03:47 PM | #230
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
You are refusing to get the point. Is or is not the point of an instance to get better gear for your character? I will assume that your answer is yes. So in that case, since your companion is clearly a big part of your overall character, rolling need for companion gear is rolling for "your" gear. The fact that the companion is not participating in the instance means nothing. YOu are still in the end gearing your overall character. You cannot ignore this fact.
Yes. I can ignore this "fact". Because in ALL GROUP SITUATIONS YOUR COMPANION IS NOT USED. If you want to gear YOUR companion, DO IT SOLO.