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Rolling need for your companion

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Rolling need for your companion

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Marlaine
01.10.2012 , 03:38 PM | #211
Quote: Originally Posted by Splitquick View Post
I agree but it is undeniable that the companion is NOT PARTICIPATING during the need roll. The companion is also NOT USED in the group setting that this discussion pertains to. I have NEVER had any difficulty gearing up my companions from quest/bought items and CERTAINLY not to the point that I would override someone in my group just to gear a PET.
You are refusing to get the point. Is or is not the point of an instance to get better gear for your character? I will assume that your answer is yes. So in that case, since your companion is clearly a big part of your overall character, rolling need for companion gear is rolling for "your" gear. The fact that the companion is not participating in the instance means nothing. YOu are still in the end gearing your overall character. You cannot ignore this fact.

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HanzoV
01.10.2012 , 03:39 PM | #212
Quote: Originally Posted by Democratus View Post
Your character is not a real person. It is a fictional construct that only exists in the game - just like the companions.

Don't confuse a player with a character/companion/NPC or any other imaginary thing.
The characters aren't real, but the people playing them are. Which is why (to me) they come before the bots.

You know, you guys don't have to try so hard to justify your stance -- it's clear that you (and those like you) aren't going to budge on this. Play how you want, but don't be surprised at the way people respond to you. You can't be inconsiderate AND expect people to like you.
TORtanic indeed. It's just like that movie that was hugely successful and made boatloads of money.
This is an MMO. Whether you play with or see the other players is irrelevant to that fact.

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ferroz
01.10.2012 , 03:39 PM | #213
Quote: Originally Posted by Splitquick View Post
No matter how you put it, it comes down to that you want your PLAYER CHARACTER to take precedence over another PLAYER CHARACTER that actively contributed to the REASON why the loot dropped in the first place.
fixed

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:39 PM | #214
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
Your use of ninja further highlights your inability to understand the big picture. Get it through your head. It is a FACT that Bioware integrated companions to be a clear part of your overall character. You cannot ignore this, yet you consistenly refuse to acknowledge it.

You are free to have your opinion, but quit trying to pass your opinion as fact by insulting those who disagree with you and have a completely valid point.


Stop making up facts. You're companion doesn't share your stats...not part of your character. If your in a 4man group, your companion basicly doesn't exist. You can twist it however you want but you are the minority. If you take someone from someone, then you're a ninja. Sorry if you don't like the title but that's what it is. BTW, pets in EQ1 could use gear/weapons til death / desummoned, would you let someone need on gear for them? Since it betters their character?

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akspace
01.10.2012 , 03:40 PM | #215
Okay, I'm not going to bother replying to various stupid comments.

But I can name a couple dozen people from my vanilla wow server who ended up quitting/re-rolling to different servers because of blacklisting. One of them was even an officer in progression guild. Over-time this went away in WoW, honestly I blame transfers, being able to just move without losing your progression means there is no incentive to punish the person misbehaving.

If you go back further, it was worse in EQ, it even happened in Rift but it wasn't about looting it was about poor skills with a given role. Just buying an extra role and claiming you are a healer would get you blacklisted really quickly. Of course this changed with LFD, I stopped playing around that point.

To claim this doesn't happen means you are very insular when it comes to server politics and probably aren't actually involved in any sort of guild leadership position.

Anyway, on topic, I don't believe people should role on companion gear. Some people claim a companion is part of your character you can't live without. I contend you can complete every non-heroic quest without any companion out. They just make the process easier.

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Marlaine
01.10.2012 , 03:40 PM | #216
Quote: Originally Posted by laparkuh View Post
What's funny is I'm sure half the people saying "I NEED FOR COMPANION" would ragequit if someone took their "main toons" upgrade...It's just playing selfishly. In single player games it's ok to "me me me" but since you can't solo the flashpoint...stop being an *** and share. =D
The exact same applies for you. I wish you people could see the hypocricy by calling others selfish. Those of use who would roll on gear for our companions are playing the game as designed. If you have a beef with that, you should take it up with Bioware, not the players playing the game as Bioware intended.

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Dosblade
01.10.2012 , 03:40 PM | #217
Lol some people really use their companion NO ONE gives them crap items to use. You use it all the time. I could care less.. you need it take it. Really? What loot drops you wont get something better 1/2-1 level from then? Or can go to some VENDOR and buy? Having problems with credits in this game are you? yeah..

Me.. unless there is someone that can use it .. I will take it for my pet. Oh my and if they ignore me.. what ever will I do..life is so short and your playing a game. You cant keep ANYTHING. Try just PLAYING..you get something you dont.. who cares have fun.

Man people are just strange.. had one group leader saying to the group "if you guys dont start skipping the videos I will kick you"..haha.. rich..


And your posting HERE.. well most players never go to the forums. Pick a different server. I cant even count how many times I ran some instance.. and have only ONLY had it happen one time the person needed all.. so? 98% of the time people are nice and play kool.

What needs done is to only BOUND when you LEAVE the place.. way to many times people want to give it back and would.. but cant.. So come back from la la land

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DJJAZZY
01.10.2012 , 03:41 PM | #218
I didn't read through the whole thread but perhaps they could supply a roll bonus to actual characters who can use the weapon/armor. Put it on the Need roll only. Give a +100 bonus to the BH in the original posters example on the need roll. That way people who can't use but roll need for the companions can only get them if another player, that can use the item, but decided not to roll need on it.

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:41 PM | #219
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
The exact same applies for you. I wish you people could see the hypocricy by calling others selfish. Those of use who would roll on gear for our alts are playing the game as designed. If you have a beef with that, you should take it up with Bioware, not the players playing the game as Bioware intended.


Yes because my willingness to share loot with PLAYERS makes me selfish...next try troll?

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Marlaine
01.10.2012 , 03:42 PM | #220
Quote: Originally Posted by Tahana View Post
Wrong.. Can your companion continue to fight if you fall in a fight? Until companions can do this they are nothing more than another NPC.
Your companion has a huge effect on PREVENTING you from "falling". Your arguments are so poor all across the board.