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Rolling need for your companion

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Rolling need for your companion

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Tahana
01.10.2012 , 03:15 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
Excellent point. I forgot about this. Further nullifies the non-sensical anti-companion argument.
Please tell me what Heroics or Flashpoints where 4 people are required where I can use my companion??? And if you needed on an item running a two man, I'd kick you in a heart beat.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to
what lies within us. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -

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Badbonez
01.10.2012 , 03:18 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
That really wouldn't change things. As people would have to be willing to click it. The issue really isn't the interface, it's the fact that there are people that do not see their companions as separate from their main character, and there are some that do. Those are competing views and they are both valid for people to have. Just make sure you're hunting with the folks that share your views.
RE: Companion button

OK, I see that it wouldn't solve the entire problem. But that button would take the guess work out for newbies and some pugs. It would also be a statement from BW saying that companions are separate from players. So maybe that's why there isn't one. BW doesn't want to make that statement, they want the players to play the way they want, and figure it out amongst ourselves.

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Splitquick
01.10.2012 , 03:18 PM | #183
I am honestly amazed at this thread and the people who truly believe rolling on an item they can't immediately equip is "ok".

All the logical people have already spoken very valid points about why you should NOT roll need on something your companion needs, but I'll revisit a few points.

1. Companions do not participate in the flashpoint at the time the loot drops.
- I really don't care if you believe your companion "IS YOUR MAIN" like marmalade keeps spouting off. No it isn't. Your main is the character you are controlling which contributed to the success of the group. Your companion did nothing to help OUR group.

2. Rolling need for your companion, NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT, is SELFISH.
- This of course has it's exceptions, such as NO HUMAN PC needed the item.
How can you sit there and be satisfied with yourself in the following scenario:
~Heavy armor drops. The HEAVY ARMOR WEARING tank says "oh wow that's a HUGE upgrade for me!" You (let's say you're a sorc), roll need. You win the roll. The heavy armor wearing tank asks why you rolled need.... You say... here it comes.... It's for Khem Val.

It honestly urks me that you don't in any way feel bad about that?

For me personally, even if it's a PUG, when I see someone get to upgrade a piece of equipment, I'm happy for them, give them a grats! in chat and hope I also get an upgrade during the run.

3. WE ALL HAVE COMPANIONS.
- If one or two classes had a pet/companion and their DPS, even while grouped, depended on the gearing of their pet/companion it would be a different story.

4. Companions help you while you play SOLO, which some of you admit is most of the time you play. So you know what? Why don't you spend your SOLO time to gear up your companion.

This is a topic that has been a discussion in every MMO I've ever played, and not once have I seen so many people think it was OK to be a selfish douche. Wow.

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HanzoV
01.10.2012 , 03:19 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Aisar View Post
That is your opinion on how group loot should be distributed and you should definitely make this known with every group you run.
Yeah, I never claimed it was gospel. It was pretty clear from my first post ("My personal feelings are...") that these are my views.

Good luck to you...and to those that group with you.
TORtanic indeed. It's just like that movie that was hugely successful and made boatloads of money.
This is an MMO. Whether you play with or see the other players is irrelevant to that fact.

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:19 PM | #185
COMPANIONS ARE NOT "YOU" UNLESS YOUR GROUP REQUIRES YOU TO USE IT. If there are 3 other players in your group, then your companion isn't doing anything. Someone answer me this..... If it's ok to need for companions...can I need for my friends who aren't currently in group? They help me progress through the game too...

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Badbonez
01.10.2012 , 03:20 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Splitquick View Post

This is a topic that has been a discussion in every MMO I've ever played, and not once have I seen so many people think it was OK to be a selfish douche. Wow.
This is the first MMO I've played that had companions, not just alts, but companions. So for me, this is an interesting argument.

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Vydor_HC
01.10.2012 , 03:21 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Badbonez View Post
RE: Companion button

OK, I see that it wouldn't solve the entire problem. But that button would take the guess work out for newbies and some pugs. It would also be a statement from BW saying that companions are separate from players. So maybe that's why there isn't one. BW doesn't want to make that statement, they want the players to play the way they want, and figure it out amongst ourselves.
-nods-

Yeah, I think so too. The companion aspect is a paradigm shift, one of the innovative things BW did, that people will get used to as time passes. Right now, just let folks know your stance when you group and the issue should be minimal. You being anyone in general.

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BigBadEdward
01.10.2012 , 03:21 PM | #188
No one has ever made a compelling arugment that says that one player, just because of their choice of classes, has a greater right to a dropped piece of gear than anyone else in the group.

Yes, need is unnecessary and overly complicates this situation. There is a thread about this every other day and they all go to a 1000 pages because the community is split, maybe not evenly but still split, on how this is supposed to work.

make the choices roll or pass and remove bind on pickup. End of argument.

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:25 PM | #189
I hate having stupid rules, but we almost need it so if your archtype can't use then you can't roll anything except greed. BTW people, this is the same arguement people are using against dungeon finder, yet it's happening constantly before it even exists. Guess the "community" everyone is trying so hard to save, never existed...

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Tahana
01.10.2012 , 03:26 PM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by BigBadEdward View Post
make the choices roll or pass and remove bind on pickup. End of argument.
Why should those be the choices.. That is just caving into the cheese monkeys that think its cute to use the common excuse instead of being called a ninja... Same people just disguised differently.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to
what lies within us. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -