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Why run 16man when 8man is so much easier?


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Yummymango
01.11.2012 , 02:08 PM | #11
I do agree that there should be an incentive to running 16 man raids though our guild at this time isnt running 16 man content. But at the same time not every guild wants to progress as 16 man because good 16 players are not something that all guilds can afford

Solution -
I think instead of better gear rewards, there should be other rewards like some really rare epic mount drops or achievements from 16 man. Or combine both and mount from achiv haha

Otherwise to my dear friend why do 16 man. Just dont do it and go with easy mode 8 man raids

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Obligation
01.11.2012 , 02:28 PM | #12
way i see it, the end game is suffering from a lack of non tier related drops. the only non weapon ,non tier drops are the "energized" drops which are flat out copies of regular tier gear (even in stats in most cases)

to really reward 16 man, make more standalone gear and items available. having One piece of gear or 2 out way a rakata is fine as long as you work for it. it makes us raiders actually think about what to wear
in the same idea, BW needs to make better relics. right now most guildies agree that using a matrix cube is usually better. (+60 something to your main stat at all time is amazing) not all relics should be 'push to use' allow some to give us proc effects or even just interesting ones like the "Eye of Shadow" that priests could gain in Molten Core that led them to a epic questline.


we need some more loot, BW. Some better then tier, some more interesting, but we as raiders need rewards from 16 man, and what i suggest is , imo, the perfect solution

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ValaxDarkseer
01.11.2012 , 02:39 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Obligation View Post
way i see it, the end game is suffering from a lack of non tier related drops. the only non weapon ,non tier drops are the "energized" drops which are flat out copies of regular tier gear (even in stats in most cases)

to really reward 16 man, make more standalone gear and items available. having One piece of gear or 2 out way a rakata is fine as long as you work for it. it makes us raiders actually think about what to wear
in the same idea, BW needs to make better relics. right now most guildies agree that using a matrix cube is usually better. (+60 something to your main stat at all time is amazing) not all relics should be 'push to use' allow some to give us proc effects or even just interesting ones like the "Eye of Shadow" that priests could gain in Molten Core that led them to a epic questline.


we need some more loot, BW. Some better then tier, some more interesting, but we as raiders need rewards from 16 man, and what i suggest is , imo, the perfect solution
Oh absolutely.

Its even more frustrating when you finally notice that Rakata gear is hardly any better than Columni anyways and in some cases is a sidegrade.

The itemization for endgame is downright pitiful.

Heck you dont even get a title for finishing EV. Such a disapointing endgame.

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United
01.11.2012 , 02:39 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Obligation View Post
... we need some more loot, BW. Some better then tier, some more interesting, but we as raiders need rewards from 16 man, and what i suggest is , imo, the perfect solution
Give it time. There is so much that needs to be done and BW can only do so much.

I know in an upcoming patch they are rumored to be adding hundreds of items.
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Dovahbrah
01.11.2012 , 05:07 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by United View Post
I know in an upcoming patch they are rumored to be adding hundreds of items.
Strong contradiction.
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ValaxDarkseer
01.11.2012 , 05:25 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Dovahbrah View Post
Strong contradiction.
lol.

Anyways on the topic of possible new 100's of items my guess is that 90% of them will be low lvl junk and crafting recipes that are worthless at endgame.

My guess is we will get more awesome "energized" lvl Tioneese junk for endgame which is useless and almost noone equips anyways because this game poops out columni gear at an alarming rate.