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Hutt Hospitality Nightmare mode


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rovendahl
01.10.2012 , 10:29 AM | #21
my guild got 2 problems with that boss. after 1st wipe, 1 of our group, always the same person, etering alrdy dead without recieving dmg. always the same. we tried to ask him to enter 5,10,15 seconds after all with our without shield.. always dead. that's the 1st problem. the 2nd is that Bonethrasher sometimes hits with 43k dmg. so any ideas how to solve it? Mode is hard. all of us got 16,5k+ hp

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Ginzuu
01.10.2012 , 10:56 AM | #22
Nah, the Guardian is a part of our core team and we raided EV nm before that so we figured we'll just try it out with him there.

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MacAllen
01.11.2012 , 11:21 AM | #23
You guys are saying "kite" and "don't kite" like it's an option. We've yet to beat this guy on NORMAL mode, and we're loaded with EV gear, with sages having 16k hp. He runs all over the place, and my taunt is greyed out. We dps like mad but because we're all running around our dps is reduced and we get him to 25% or so before he enrages.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Our raid makeup (all friends, so this is who we have):
Guardian
Shadow (dps)
3 Sentinels
2 Sages (1 heal, 1 dps)
Commando (healing)

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MacAllen
01.11.2012 , 11:22 AM | #24
For example, this movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkUA38AbnVY), they're all standing behind the rancor and he's being tanked like a normal tank and spank. I'm missing something if this is possible. Help?

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Exertim
01.11.2012 , 11:27 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by MacAllen View Post
You guys are saying "kite" and "don't kite" like it's an option. We've yet to beat this guy on NORMAL mode, and we're loaded with EV gear, with sages having 16k hp. He runs all over the place, and my taunt is greyed out. We dps like mad but because we're all running around our dps is reduced and we get him to 25% or so before he enrages.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Our raid makeup (all friends, so this is who we have):
Guardian
Shadow (dps)
3 Sentinels
2 Sages (1 heal, 1 dps)
Commando (healing)
Tell your DPS to DPS harder. There's not much to really be said. Your makeup is fine for normal mode Rancor. In fact, we did a run with friends in our last normal mode Rancor and had a really unorthodox raid comp: x3 tanks (Guardian, Shadow, Vanguard), 2 healers, and 3 DPS (myself on Sentinel, Sage, and a Scoundrel) and still downed him before his enrage.

As far as I know, he was changed and is currently untankable in your typical "tank and spank" scenario.

Make sure your Sentinels have 100% DPS uptime on Rancor. There's really no reason not to outside of swapping to food adds or the 50% adds. I was able to stay on him forever even when he was after me. Just have your melee run through him and continue DPSing at max melee range behind him when he pauses to swipe.
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Xilap
01.11.2012 , 11:56 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Riddickcz View Post
We are actually killing this boss in combo 6 dps (2 ranged, 4 melee) and 2 healers. With proper tactic to get the fight at least a little under control it doesnt require melee to run much and gives i would say like 90% dps time on boss. Its still 10% less than ranged have but yea..its doable.

EDIT: However I do agree that on 90% of fights in this game melee dps are in multiple ways handicapped. But on the other hand Its been this way in every single MMO that went out. Thats just the way it is..you are melee u need to run from cleaves, thunder claps etc. I aint sayin its good its just how its always been.

Anyway Threat indicator and Target of Target and combat log is a MUST for MMO game of this scale. Its just sad it takes ages to implement core features that are actually required for boss fights not to be messy, when boss mechanics are build around these features.
There is a target of target in the game look under keybinds( I think it's alt F) it switches your target to the target though.

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MacAllen
01.11.2012 , 11:58 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Xilap View Post
There is a target of target in the game look under keybinds( I think it's alt F) it switches your target to the target though.
I don't want to target it's target, I want to SEE it's target, so I can know if it's *ME* and start running, vs waiting for the lumbering PITA to come charging across the ring at me :P

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Captkornnutz
01.11.2012 , 12:25 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by rovendahl View Post
the 2nd is that Bonethrasher sometimes hits with 43k dmg. so any ideas how to solve it? Mode is hard. all of us got 16,5k+ hp
When he pounds someone into the ground he puts a debuff on them so if they get hit again before the debuff expires they will be hit by significantly more damage (40K+).

Your first problem we get as well with one person (usually the same one) dying on zone in and the only way we have been able to get it to not happen is to leave the raid, reset it, and re-clear all the trash. It never happens on the first attempt after a reset for some reason.
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xWhackoJacko
01.11.2012 , 01:15 PM | #29
@MacAllen

Spread out around him. Never stand in front of him if your MDPS.

When he targets you just be far enough in to not get knockback into poison, and just take the swipe or dodge it as he prepares it (3-4 seconds).

We just take the swipe. Its a bit more stressful to the healers but we run a couple snipers and too much movement completely destroys their DPS so we had to improvise.
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Callmeswarly
01.11.2012 , 03:21 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by MacAllen View Post
For example, this movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkUA38AbnVY), they're all standing behind the rancor and he's being tanked like a normal tank and spank. I'm missing something if this is possible. Help?
This video is from his first incarnation in beta. As I remember the majority of his abilities were broken and he was for the most part unable to do so much as move, let alone run around chasing people. So yeah, not a good indication of how the fight actually works.