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Why won't 1.1 have dungeon finder?

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Why won't 1.1 have dungeon finder?

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Crazyeyexl
01.09.2012 , 04:36 AM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by GalaxyDude View Post
Hence making all your aforementioned arguments obsolete - thanks for participating (trolling) though.
I never said I was an ahole.

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Hautaaja
01.09.2012 , 04:37 AM | #192
Quote: Originally Posted by Eronenris View Post
i love how all of you are saying the same exact thing over and over "why do i have to play the way you want" well by adding this tool it makes us play the way you want think about it moron and don't contradict yourself it makes you look dumb.

you just don't get it, no matter how many times it is said in this forum it is not optional after a few month's of having it in game IT BECOMES MANDATORY.
It would eliminate the need for /1 spam. What's wrong with that? You can still make friends, you can still get into a guild. What exactly is your point?

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Reevax
01.09.2012 , 04:37 AM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by Eronenris View Post
i love how all of you are saying the same exact thing over and over "why do i have to play the way you want" well by adding this tool it makes us play the way you want think about it moron and don't contradict yourself it makes you look dumb.

you just don't get it, no matter how many times it is said in this forum it is not optional after a few month's of having it in game IT BECOMES MANDATORY.
Why are you so insulting? I have not said a single negative word to you.

I am saying the same thing over again because its a very valid point. You are also wrong, using the LFD is never mandatory. You can still group with your guild and friends. How does the LFD impact that?

I grouped with my guild all the time, just used the LFD if no one else was around.

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GHeissi
01.09.2012 , 04:39 AM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by sithlordcip View Post
Yes, and its not spamming
Of course it is.

What you want: Provide specific information about your character and game content you are interested in to the people who want to know this kind of information and can make use out of it, this information should be persistant and not restricted by time.

What you actually do: Send many messages in a periodically fashion (because a chat is not designed to use persistant information) over a general purpose channel to all members of the same region, the majority of these people is probably not interested in this kind of information.

This means that a lot of people are getting unwanted messages of the same kind, this is considered spam.



And this has nothing to do with socializing. Writing "LFG" messages and using a group finder are both tools that i want to use to be part of a group - I don't want to chit-chat, I want a fragging group. The first tool is not efficient of course.

[e]And the /who tool with it's ~20 visible character limitation can't be used either to store the amount of information I want to be advertised.[/e]

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kineticdamage
01.09.2012 , 04:40 AM | #195
Quote: Originally Posted by raidyr View Post
I'd love to see the community you people speak of, because it ain't here.
Of course you're not seeing it, if you don't search for it from the start ... That's what you LFD people don't understand...

Quote: Originally Posted by raidyr View Post
Silent SWTOR dungeons work well enough, in my experience.
See my above comment. As a matter of fact, my dungeons are always very chatty.
Social hint that also works irl : if you don't spark a bit of conversation, it never comes.
Hey you can even use this hint to approach a girl you have a crush on !

Quote: Originally Posted by raidyr View Post
Well I imagine 7 years after release Nar Shadaa won't exactly be booming with conversation either.
But it will be for sure more active on the gen chat than WoW. You can't argue with that.

Quote: Originally Posted by raidyr View Post
What organized groups of players were "killed" by the implementation of a purely-optional automatic grouping tool those same organized groups wouldn't need and don't expect?
Non heroic guilds. Simple as that. And once again, arguing against that would prove you didn't follow your server's community.

Implementing a LFD isn't making an option, it's making as mandatory as a "give me loot now" button. It kills all the necessity to interact with others to reach a goal. The goal here being to form a group.

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Truga
01.09.2012 , 04:40 AM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by raidyr View Post
Well realistically 3 people would use LFD, 1 person would continue spamming chat, but it's a ridiculous example anyway.
Even if just 10% of the people don't like the LFD tool and spam chat instead, that's about 1000 people per server, many of those tanks and healers that could be in your party working towards completion, but instead choose to do things the faster and safer way for them ("healer and tank lf 2 dps", instant group with the ability to screen applicants), while the majority is waiting in a queue while grinding solo content.

Edit: Also, for some reason, I found that on the republic side of things tank/heal/dps ratio is much more enjoyable. Dunno why.
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Mamono
01.09.2012 , 04:41 AM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by Hautaaja View Post
It would eliminate the need for /1 spam. What's wrong with that? You can still make friends, you can still get into a guild. What exactly is your point?
The point is that you reduce the wait time for a flashpoint a LOT for people. People dont have to be in the station and spam the general chat, they can actually be out there questing and farming, playing the game while he waits for the flashpoint.
Staying at the station spaming the general chat with LFG is not "getting friends". It is simply dead play time.
Only fanbois and trolls think it is good for the game having people waiting for an houre to get flashpoint.

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Eronenris
01.09.2012 , 04:41 AM | #198
Quote: Originally Posted by Mamono View Post


Spamming the general chat is sooooooo "talking to people". Jupp, you get sooooo many friends by spamming LFG xxxxxxxx flashpoint.

That is where you are wrong. You are getting more friends when grouping with them and chatting with them in the group channel then spaming the general chat with LFG.
No one want to chat with you if you write LFG xxxxxxx flashpoint.

What I don’t understand is why you guys are so against a LFG system.
It does not hurt you. You still have your friends you can farm flashpoints with. It is not like that the LFG system will steal your friends away from you.
And if you like, you can still spam the general chat for LFM/LFG even if the system is in the game. No one forces you to use it.

Some servers may have short wait-time on flashpoint, but some servers have long.
Only narrow-minded, blind, naïve fanbois says that there are no waiting time for flashpoint anywhere.
You have enough people claiming there is waiting time.

Server only LFG system will not harm the community, it will help the community.

ok well i guess i can say it one more time and i will say it slow for you challenged ones in here with us tonight "A F T E R A F E W M O N T H ' S A N L F G T O O L B E C O M E S M A N D A T O R Y"

and as far as having enough people claiming there is a wait, i only see about 10 different people on this forum post claiming that so to me that is not very many considering the large number of player's in this game.

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sithlordcip
01.09.2012 , 04:42 AM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
I can tell I am winning because you keep calling me "kid" what a silly insult.

It most certainly does not eliminate other options.

I raided with my guild and grouped with my guild in WoW all the time. The LFD was a nice choice for the times no one else was around.

Why can't I have the same choice here?
Because this is a different game and we dont want the stench of a corpse ( WoW) to infect this game with that LFD tool that destroys the community of servers
Killing Jedi is my hobby!

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Mamono
01.09.2012 , 04:44 AM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by sithlordcip View Post
Because this is a different game and we dont want the stench of a corpse ( WoW) to infect this game with that LFD tool that destroys the community of servers
Guess you are as blind as a bat. This game is a WoW clone as it is. You alredy have the "stench" of WoW all over the game.

And no, the LFD did not ruin the game, a lot of things put to gether did. Include the CROSS-SERVER LFD, not the server-only LFD.