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Why won't 1.1 have dungeon finder?

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Why won't 1.1 have dungeon finder?

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raidyr
01.09.2012 , 04:30 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by Crazyeyexl View Post
I talk during the flashpoint, mostly, "hi", "grats", "thanks for the group"
Hahah same here. After spending 30 minutes (more if we hadn't kicked that guy who refused to leave DK before finishing his class quest, community indeed :P) forming a group we went in and proceeded to not say a single word until the exit, where someone said "thanks guys" and left. I said thanks to the two people remaining and turned in my quest completion.

I'd love to see the community you people speak of, because it ain't here.
Quote: Originally Posted by kineticdamage View Post
Tell that to those silent WoW dungeons
Silent SWTOR dungeons work well enough, in my experience.
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to this dead gen chat while leveling
Well I imagine 7 years after release Nar Shadaa won't exactly be booming with conversation either.
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and to those dead guilds killed by LFR/LFD.
What organized groups of players were "killed" by the implementation of a purely-optional automatic grouping tool those same organized groups wouldn't need and don't expect?

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Eronenris
01.09.2012 , 04:30 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
kid? lol ok.

Options is something you can have more than one of. Did you know that?

using another guy's post for this one because it is 100% accurate

A fully automated LFG-tool ultimately / eventually eliminates every other option / alternative (it becomes mandatory)!

Did you know that?

lul at you kid.

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Reevax
01.09.2012 , 04:31 AM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Eronenris View Post
ok i got one more in me while my wife gets ready for bed, uum how old are you kid? you argue like a 12 year old repeating the same exact things over and over until people get annoyed and just give up and ignore you, that is probably the reason why you cant find groups for anything its because you are so annoying and childish that no one wants to talk to you or group with you.

(What's wrong with options?, What's wrong with options wah wah i dont have my easy mode game help me mommy)
Well I am a little older then 12 but it would be nice to be that age again.

Why do you wan't to tell me how to play the game? I must play the way you want or its wrong?

There is nothing wrong giving the players a choice, its keeps them around longer and thus the game is around longer.

LFD is an optional tool, you don't have to use it if you don't want.

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Brodsk
01.09.2012 , 04:31 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by kineticdamage View Post
Tell that to those silent WoW dungeons, to this dead gen chat while leveling, and to those dead guilds killed by LFR/LFD.
When you do an instance for the 20th time, it doesn't matter how you formed the group buddy.
Also, if people want to play without saying a word, they will playing without saying a word.
Do you want no LFD tool to force people to be talkative when they don't want to, or don't need to?

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Hautaaja
01.09.2012 , 04:32 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by kineticdamage View Post
Like a blind man who never saw the sun, didn't you ever actually tried to think about alternate ways to ask to people ? Whispering, chatting, friend listing ... ?

Plus, you all know that pure spamming is more annoying than efficient, and will get you a massive "stop spamming" after a while.
Didn't you ever try to think about the fact that whispering to people, chatting could get a hostile response just as, if not more, easily. Try to think of the big picture, all the possible situations where you just don't have anyone around you to ask go with you.

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GalaxyDude
01.09.2012 , 04:33 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Crazyeyexl View Post
I talk during the flashpoint, mostly, "hi", "grats", "thanks for the group"
Hence making all your aforementioned arguments obsolete - thanks for participating (trolling) though.
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Reevax
01.09.2012 , 04:34 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Eronenris View Post
using another guy's post for this one because it is 100% accurate

A fully automated LFG-tool ultimately / eventually eliminates every other option / alternative (it becomes mandatory)!

Did you know that?

lul at you kid.
I can tell I am winning because you keep calling me "kid" what a silly insult.

It most certainly does not eliminate other options.

I raided with my guild and grouped with my guild in WoW all the time. The LFD was a nice choice for the times no one else was around.

Why can't I have the same choice here?

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Eronenris
01.09.2012 , 04:34 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by Reevax View Post
Well I am a little older then 12 but it would be nice to be that age again.

Why do you wan't to tell me how to play the game? I must play the way you want or its wrong?

There is nothing wrong giving the players a choice, its keeps them around longer and thus the game is around longer.

LFD is an optional tool, you don't have to use it if you don't want.

i love how all of you are saying the same exact thing over and over "why do i have to play the way you want" well by adding this tool it makes us play the way you want think about it moron and don't contradict yourself it makes you look dumb.

you just don't get it, no matter how many times it is said in this forum it is not optional after a few month's of having it in game IT BECOMES MANDATORY.

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raidyr
01.09.2012 , 04:34 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Hautaaja View Post
Spamming LFG in /1 makes me feel so social and part of the community, it really is the driving force behind this game. Without it the game wouldn't be worth playing. Don't you dare take that away from me.
Indeed.


Quote: Originally Posted by GalaxyDude View Post
A fully automated LFG-tool ultimately / eventually eliminates every other option / alternative (it becomes mandatory)!
Well yes, that tends to happen when superior systems come into existence. You can still enjoy your inferior method of grouping as you desire. However, the pool of players to recruit will be lower as most people prefer the fast, safe, secure method of grouping.
Quote: Originally Posted by Truga View Post
So let's say there's four people on my server. Two like to use LFD, two like to spam LFG in chat.

See what I did there? It's called community segregation, and it's bad. Yes, LFD tool is easier to operate than actually clicking the who/LFG tab in community window, but it splits the community even further than it's already split. That's my problem with it, not the "community" part. And since we currently only have one option, everyone uses that. Yes, you could say I'm afraid of choice.
Well realistically 3 people would use LFD, 1 person would continue spamming chat, but it's a ridiculous example anyway.

Yes currently people use an inferior system. That is why we want a superior system implemented.

Quote: Originally Posted by Eronenris View Post
ok i got one more in me while my wife gets ready for bed, uum how old are you kid? you argue like a 12 year old repeating the same exact things over and over until people get annoyed and just give up and ignore you, that is probably the reason why you cant find groups for anything its because you are so annoying and childish that no one wants to talk to you or group with you.

(What's wrong with options?, What's wrong with options wah wah i dont have my easy mode game help me mommy)
The same arguments are being repeated because they have yet to be attacked substantially. The only counter-points that we have recieved are insults, blind accusations and assumptions, and the ever-popular fingerpointing at the bogeyman that is The Community, an indefinable, intangible quality that games gain or lose based on what developers do and how you support those actions.

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Mamono
01.09.2012 , 04:36 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by kineticdamage View Post
I'll repeat then :

Go ... back ... to .. solo games, if you don't want to make friends.
And please respect the social part of MMO, and the people who signed for it.
Spamming the general chat is sooooooo "talking to people". Jupp, you get sooooo many friends by spamming LFG xxxxxxxx flashpoint.

That is where you are wrong. You are getting more friends when grouping with them and chatting with them in the group channel then spaming the general chat with LFG.
No one want to chat with you if you write LFG xxxxxxx flashpoint.

What I don’t understand is why you guys are so against a LFG system.
It does not hurt you. You still have your friends you can farm flashpoints with. It is not like that the LFG system will steal your friends away from you.
And if you like, you can still spam the general chat for LFM/LFG even if the system is in the game. No one forces you to use it.

Some servers may have short wait-time on flashpoint, but some servers have long.
Only narrow-minded, blind, naïve fanbois says that there are no waiting time for flashpoint anywhere.
You have enough people claiming there is waiting time.

Server only LFG system will not harm the community, it will help the community.